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Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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post #45

Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…

Thanks for pointing this out. Our whole terms-of-service is just standard boilerplate provided by our lawyers, but this part doesn't really apply to Zed. Obviously, there's no "content moderation" for project code that you collaborate on with Zed. We'll look into adjusting this to make it clearer that we don't do anything remotely concerning or invasive.

Thanks for addressing it.

Also: the thing looks really compelling. I would really like to try it out. But I can't use it. Not with irrevocable consent. If I make something that turns into billions of dollars...well, there are people that would exploit these terms. It's an absolute no-go.

> Obviously, there's no "content moderation" for project code that you collaborate on with Zed.

Not only is it non-obvious, it's explicitly stated that you can do what you want with any content that you are exposed to, which is all of it, because you've granted yourself the ability to surveil everything. And not only what the "Application" or "Tool" sees, but by any means available to you by the "Service."

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#102
post #45

Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…

Luckily I read this comment before starting the thing. (I as always clicked "agree" on the license/TOS screen).

Into the ~/.Trash it goes.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#104
I just installed on my Monterey Macbook, but it won't launch. No window appears. I tried launching from a python file, still nothing.

Well, if as you say in your site's vision section, "the editor should disappear", it seems you got it.

WAIT. It took a full 5 minutes to come up the first time. So be forewarned.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developing on a mac is terrible; will take a look when other platforms are supported.

looks around and waves hands at hundreds of thousands of Bay Area developers using Macs A Unix box with a nice UI? It's what I always wanted.

what I don't understand is how it's seen as acceptable to pay several thousand dollars for a machine that is sold as a "full experience" and then relying on the work of some people outside Apple that build homebrew and make it actually usable for development

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#106
post #65

It's weird to show screenshot of an editor with white background, most programmers use dark themes right?

For me it depends on the time of the day. Also I prefer light background on video call screen sharing for some reason I can't really articulate.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#107
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in anyway justifying it, but is this for some kind of "social" feature or does it actually relate to code you write? I wonder if this is for some kind of content moderation law compliance? It's a shitty licence but exactly the behavior that's incentivized by governments imposing content moderation rules

Yes this is for stuff you upload to their "service" whatever that is. It has nothing to do with the editor itself.

Can you please point out where you find this exclusion? You may be right, and it's hard to examine with the dual numbering system in there, but I've been through it and I don't see anything other than "everything is ours."

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#109
post #45

Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…

That sounds unconscionable, wonder if it would hold up in court (my guess is not).

But do you have the funds/time to find out?

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#110
I thought a lot of the Atom developers moved to create Pulsar Editor.

https://pulsar-edit.dev/

Also, the community forked Atom into a community edition (CE), still getting updates?

https://github.com/atom-community/atom/

What makes this "Atom Developer Editor" different than Pulsar or Atom-CE.

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