Side note: what did happen to Travis? I was just googling them yesterday because they were everywhere. They even came with the GitHub education package. Did GitHub just eat them?
Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
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#52However it looks like the main effect is going to be moving more of open source onto GitHub, aka under Microsoft's control, and the level of faith people have in Microsoft not destroying their competitor for profit is surreal.
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#53They pushed that with the aggressive rate limiting first though, which caused a lot of people to now understand that paragraph above and use proxies, specify a different "hub", etc.
So this move, to me, has less leverage than they might have intended, since the previous move already educated people on how to work around docker hub.
At some point, they force everyone's hand and lose their moat.
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#54Side note: what did happen to Travis? I was just googling them yesterday because they were everywhere. They even came with the GitHub education package. Did GitHub just eat them?
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#55> Start publishing images to GitHub And when GitHub starts similar shenanigans, move out to where? I am old enough to know the we can't trust BigTech and their unpredictable behaviors. Eventually we need to start a Codeberg like alternative using Prototype funds to be self reliant. 1: https://codeberg.org/ 2: https://prototypefund.de/
It actually sounds reasonable to me? They have an open source program, the article says its open source definition is "too strict" because it says you must have "no pathway to commercialization". I mean why should you expect someone to host gigabytes of docker images for you, for free?
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#56Docker the tool has been a massive benefit to software development, every now and then I have a moan about the hassle of getting something bootstrapped to run on Docker, but it's still worlds better than the old ways of managing dependencies and making sure everyone on a project is aligned on what versions of things are installed. Unfortunately Docker the company appears to be dying, this is the latest in a long line…
Docker should have been a neat tool made by one enthusiast, just like curl is. Instead it has a multi-million dollar company behind it, and VC's who demand profits from a thing that shouldn't have ever had a business plan.
I find myself shaking my head at a lot of their technical decisions too.
Podman seems to me to be a case study for how to do this right.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are techniques to compress and dedup redundancies... I doubt it is real 100gbs on their disks...
Even so...storage is not free. Looking at the rates of enterprise storage costs compared to what Google or Apple charges consumers - I was surprised by how subsidized people's photo libraries are.
Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
#59My first thought on this was good riddance. The dev model of "we've lost track of our dependencies so ship Ubuntu and a load of state" never sat well. However it looks like the main effect is going to be moving more of open source onto GitHub, aka under Microsoft's control, and the level of faith people have in Microsoft not destroying their competitor for profit is surreal.
Docker, the company, is failing. Docker, as in containerization technology, is alive and very well.
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Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
#60Docker the tool has been a massive benefit to software development, every now and then I have a moan about the hassle of getting something bootstrapped to run on Docker, but it's still worlds better than the old ways of managing dependencies and making sure everyone on a project is aligned on what versions of things are installed. Unfortunately Docker the company appears to be dying, this is the latest in a long line…
And Nix is worlds better than even this. Imagine!