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The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#201

> The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU. To be precise it is "The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU using glibc." In other words, even though I have x86_64 cpu, since I'm on alpine, I'm fucked anyway.

Which is odd because there's lots of ARM Chromebooks. I'm typing this one one right now.

So they have a working version of this internally obviously. I guess they just don't ship it stand-alone?

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#202
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The mere existence of Widevine is a mystery for me. How sensible for Netflix is to invest into DRM at all? It's not a gamedev situation, where DRM lasts long enough to make impact on initial sales. Pirated Netflix shows appear on the torrents same day, and unless they have full-stack protection from the decoder to the screen, not much can be done. They seem to make user experience worse for nothing.

Netflix doesn’t do it because they want to. They do it because it’s part of the licensing agreements they sign to get content.

This is the only reason why they do it. It's not just Netflix, everyone in the industry knows it's pointless, but these licensing deals mandate it and no one wants pay lawyers or extra to have it removed.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#203
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What? Piracy is so easy. Go to torrent site, download torrent, click on file. It really couldn't be easier. There's no DRM on the torrent. If you have a semi-modern GPU you can play any codec you might download. I'm really not sure what you're talking about, unless you're going to some weird torrent site. Piracy has a great user experience compared to paying for DRM and having to use a particular app instead of your…

I almost wrote "just wait for people to say 'no it's easy'" but I thought surely we are over that now. I want to watch The Climb 2023 S01E01. I Google "The Climb 2023 S01E01 torrent" First result is www.stagatv.com/series/the-climb-s01 (not linking because it is spam) Hmm nothing else useful on the first page except this: In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page.…

Piracy has become slightly more difficult, mostly because of the difficulty finding good torrent sites.

I've set up Prowlarr with the recommended torrent sites and have found two torrents (h264 with 4 seeds and h265 with 9 seeds at 1080p, or h264 with 3 seeds at 480p) for your query; it took me no more than five seconds. A torrent client isn't enough these days, unless you like wasting your time on Google, but there are technical solutions for that!

Combine this with Sonarr and you can simply add "the climb". It'll download all the episodes for you, and optionally start downloading new ones once the next season comes out.

I can't find where I would watch this show legally. The local copyright lobby has set up a nice website where you can look up legal sources for TV shows, but it doesn't even list the show, let alone show the normal "not available right now" message. With legal-ish access to Amazon, Disney+, HBO, and Netflix through my accounts or those of friends, I'd expect to find it somewhere but I'm not going to bother manually searching through all that.

There's an opportunity for media companies to take Sonarr and make a version that just redirects you to the services you're already subscribed to. They'll have to find some data source for situations like "season 1 is on Netflix, season 2-4 are on Amazon, season 3-5 are on Disney and the specials are on Paramount+" but the industry have done that to itself so it may as well fix it.

Piracy is still often the easy way out for me now that I have the *darr collection set up. There was a short time where practically every streaming show was on Netflix and piracy was the stupid, difficult way to watch shows, and I actually kind of liked it. Then the industry had to fuck it up for itself by splitting off in a million different subscription services.

Hell, nontechnical people still resort to piracy despite their inability to use torrents. For many, 123-super-movie.entertainmenttonite365.biz or whatever you call it is good enough. These websites, seemingly designed as a benchmark for adblockers, are hard to find or navigate but are still considered better alternatives than the restrictive, annoying, often expensive streaming services.

My theory is that that's for one simple reason: you can find a link on Google and just start watching. No need to open seven different apps and do the search over and over again, waiting several seconds for animations and sign-ins.

Some people may do it purely because they don't have the money to spend 20 dollars on watching two episodes of a show, but the same was once true of music and Spotify mostly fixed the music streaming market for consumers, and youtube caters to the rest. Even the people using weird streaming sites don't download mp3s anymore!

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#204
post #151

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Capture is not lossless. Think about a photocopy machine, every copy loses a small bit of information. Recapturing video output is a similar situation.

Why? Photocopy is obviously lossy since there is a very noisy digital-analog-digital conversion going on. But a capture card is capturing a digital signal. There should be no loss except for video decoding/encoding artifacts.

You're not understanding how lossy compression encoders work. Try recompressing a JPEG a few dozen times. Or take an MP3 and export it from Audacity, open the export, export as MP3 again a dozen times and see what it sounds like.

All those artifacts keep getting amplified every time you re-encode until it's practically just the artifacts. Every time you render and recompress you're losing information, it's lossy compression after all.

https://youtu.be/icruGcSsPp0

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#205
post #82
post #72

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You know we had that, they called it HDCP. It continues to frustrate users of beamers and what not today, despite the root key being leaked for many years now. Even before the key leak, it never did anything to stop shows appearing as torrents on day one. It will never work, if pirates have to replace the TV panel with an FPGA, they will happily do so.

> It will never work, if pirates have to replace the TV panel with an FPGA, they will happily do so. Evidence does appear to point to you being right, but I really wonder just who is going to these lengths to pirate things for other people? A significant investment of time and money, from highly a highly skilled individual, for... bragging rights? Is there some financial motive I'm unaware of?

If I can crack any piece of DRM, or any digital restrictions, I will do it for free and release it for free. If publishers can't make paying for content more convenient than torrenting or downloading it from a random website, it is their fault. Also, the sense of accomplishment is too great to ignore once you finally crack it.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#206

> The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU. To be precise it is "The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU using glibc." In other words, even though I have x86_64 cpu, since I'm on alpine, I'm fucked anyway.

Which is odd because there's lots of ARM Chromebooks. I'm typing this one one right now. So they have a working version of this internally obviously. I guess they just don't ship it stand-alone?

In the featured article, it delves into this a bit:

> Earlier, I said that 'Widevine-in-Chrome-on-Linux-on-aarch64' is not an officially supported platform.

> I lied.

> Chromebooks exist, many have aarch64 CPUs, they run Chrome on Linux (more or less), and they officially support Widevine.

The whole post is worth a read. Its pretty sort and well written!

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#207

Widevine has been privately cracked/bypassed. The method hasn't been made public as it would obviously get patched rather quickly (if it even can be patched). That's why Netflix content is available almost immediately on any decent tracker. The quality would not look nearly as good if it was grabbed using a capture card. Like others have mentioned, it's security theater for the content owners who most likely require…

It's not even private anymore. Anyone can easily find tools on GitHub or other sites[0] that can download widevine'd content. It's easy to find L3 keys on GitHub too. There are public sites[1] that get the decryption keys but using their own keys on the backend if you cant find keys or don't know how to dump the keys. There is an all-in-one tool[2] that lets anyone with 0 knowledge of DRM to dump content from practically any site that uses widevine, costs a leg but it's meant for people who don't want to waste time finding tools and learning how to do it manually.

[0]: https://cdm-project.com/CDM-Tools/

[1]: https://cdrm-project.com/ & http://getwvkeys.cc/

[2]: https://streamfab.com/

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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post #167

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What? Piracy is so easy. Go to torrent site, download torrent, click on file. It really couldn't be easier. There's no DRM on the torrent. If you have a semi-modern GPU you can play any codec you might download. I'm really not sure what you're talking about, unless you're going to some weird torrent site. Piracy has a great user experience compared to paying for DRM and having to use a particular app instead of your…

I almost wrote "just wait for people to say 'no it's easy'" but I thought surely we are over that now. I want to watch The Climb 2023 S01E01. I Google "The Climb 2023 S01E01 torrent" First result is www.stagatv.com/series/the-climb-s01 (not linking because it is spam) Hmm nothing else useful on the first page except this: In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page.…

Yes, that's one way to do it. It's the way that hasn't worked for years.

The other way is fire up a VPN (I suggest Mullvad), setup port fowarding in Mullvad once time, start QBittorent, search in QBittorent, done.

Yeah, not "easy"... But there are guides.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#209

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4k rips land on usenet super quickly though and they're excellent quality. HDCP is already easily bypassed at this point.

But probably re-encodes, so filesizes are bigger for close enough quality. A direct crack of the encryption would be best from a space-quality perspective. Doesn’t really matter much though in most of the world as it used to though.

This is incorrect.

See the difference between a scene WEB release and a P2P WEB-Rip.

> The landscape of the WEB scene has changed in the last four years. > Subsequently, the ability to defeat DRM has become ubiquitous.

https://scenerules.org/n.html?id=2020_WDX.nfo

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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post #143

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Instead of “buy”, they should be labeled “rentals - as long as provider exists or chooses to give you access”.

When have you ever been able to buy software? I thought in most cases you just buy a license to use the software or the license says it’s free for X types of uses or sometimes “free for everyone”.

Back when it was sold on physical media; CDs, Bluray, DVD or floppy disk. Because it was a physical disk, you were allowed to do whatever you want with that disk. You weren't given the right to copy it and distribute those copies thanks to copyright, but you were allowed to resell your one physical copy due to the first sale doctrine. Hence we can quibble about the definition of "buy software", but we used to be able to do that. It's that the first sale doctrine kinda doesn't apply if you're renting software like a SaaS over the Internet; eg Adobe Photoshop/Creative Cloud.
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