Note that you can turn on E2E encryption in FB Messenger (as well as WhatsApp). It does lose a few features, but people should probably be aware it is possible.
Facebook and Google hand over user data, help police prosecute abortion seekers
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#182Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear. Unless they change the laws and suddenly you have something to hide.
Yep. Too many people design systems (both technical and otherwise) under the assumption 'their team' will always be in control, and it'll be their enemies who suffer. Or that hey, this power will never be abused because the system won't allow it, and those in control will always have our best interests in mind. Don't collect more data than you have to, limit the power of any systems you implement, and always design t…
This is great advice if you want to design Good systems, but under barely-regulated capitalism, those who design Good systems will be out-competed and put out of business by those who design Profitable systems :(
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's at least a tertiary factor in "freeing" women. 1. The creation of domestic appliances that dramatically shorten house hold chores (washing clothing is a main one). 2. The move from the bulk of work labour being less physical. Both meant there was less time needed to maintain a household, previously that was a full time job that seemed unpaid. And that women had suitable roles available in the work force where…
Indeed. A household with a single wage earner will have a lot more free time. Its not just cleaning and cooking, it's paying bills, organising holidays, going shopping, arranging events/parties, socialising with neighbours, taking kids places, birthday cards/presents, keeping up with local council issues to be able to vote sensibly... the list goes on. Honestly, given where the productivity gains of women in the work…
It's why they were offering women several thousand dollars in reimbursements to travel for an abortion. Those employers were unwilling to provide the same amount to women who wanted to keep their baby.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the other 30% is unknown so we can’t say they selectively comply. It’s quite possible the other 30% are invalid warrants, in which case there’s nothing to comply with.
Social media companies can't decide that a warrant is "invalid". Only a court can decide that. From the article: > Goldman indicated examples where internet services affirmatively go to court to protect user interest, "but those are the exceptions." "There's thousands of requests for every one of those cases"
They can, however, decide “this is worth pushing back against” vs “this is not worth pushing back against” - that 30% represents the number of times that Meta’s lawyers believed it was worth pushing back and they were proved correct
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#185Is the issue that Meta and Google comply with the law(turning in the data to crime investigators), or that the law itself is medieval? I mean, both are concerning in their own way. But the latter seems like a much much bigger problem.
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#186>Facebook and Google comply with the law. >When presented with a valid warrant they hand over the data requested. The article seems to imply that the big social media companies should selectively comply with a valid warrant based on what crime the accused has committed. I think you should either have problem with the entire procedure or agree that the procedure is valid.
> The article seems to imply that the big social media companies should selectively comply with a valid warrant They already selectively comply: "According to internal statistics provided by Meta, the company complies with government requests for user data more than 70% of the time".
A much more informative statement would be:
"We turn down about 25% of all requests"
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#187IMO the most realistic way to improve this situation is to get more people using E2EE chat apps, and fight against any attempt by government to weaken or ban encryption. Meta the company hates this and is spending money on ads trying to get people to use WhatsApp with end to end encryption for things like this.
Even with E2EE doesn't META know who is messaging who on Whatsapp? This doesn't seem completely secure. Briar is distributed and uses Tor to hide user IPs.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The Chinese, for all their faults, don't seem to care what you do in your spare time. I thought pyrography (for example) was illegal in China
That would be strange for a traditional Chinese art that's probably sold at airports and gift shops.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Roe v. Wade was a corruption of the political progress (and I say this as a non-american pro-abortionist). If you want to have a law on abortion make an actual law.
I mean, SCOTUS said otherwise for fifty years. They decide what is and isn't legitimate and it was fair play until last year. I agree with you in principle but AFAIK "actual laws" have never been necessary when the SCOTUS has declared a Constitutional right. Individual states don't need to codify a right to keep and bear arms, or freedom of speech or religion, nor can they choose to re-enable slavery or segregation,…
And it's somewhat unclear to me why this should be a federal issue at all... isn't murder a state issue?
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed. A household with a single wage earner will have a lot more free time. Its not just cleaning and cooking, it's paying bills, organising holidays, going shopping, arranging events/parties, socialising with neighbours, taking kids places, birthday cards/presents, keeping up with local council issues to be able to vote sensibly... the list goes on. Honestly, given where the productivity gains of women in the work…
Wages stagnate when there are an abundance of workers and a shortage of jobs. Corporations don't care about empowerment of women they care about keeping wages down across the board. It's why they were offering women several thousand dollars in reimbursements to travel for an abortion. Those employers were unwilling to provide the same amount to women who wanted to keep their baby.
Isn't that contract killing now?
Edit: Thanks for downvoting a honest question!