Denver’s e-bike subsidy program produced more new riders, fewer car trips

Post by lostmsu » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 2:27 PM UTC

komali2 wrote: post #160

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Extreme labor inefficiency. Today Amazon's driver can deliver an order of magnitude more packages than a person with a wheel barrow could. There are 100,000+ Amazon drivers in the US. You'd need at least 1,000,000 people with wheel barrows.

That's true if we decide it's a good idea to continue to deliver millions of packages of small plastic goods every day. A big part of that is probably also due to the USA's massively isolating suburb design and poorly layed out roads.

Post by kornhole » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 5:46 PM UTC

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I'm a huge fan of programs like this, but one thing that cities like Denver (especially Denver) need to be wary of are things that actively worsen bike commutes over time. I live nearby, and one of the things that is a frequent topic of conversation is how dangerous certain bike trails in Denver are due to assaults and muggings. This is a new phenomenon, and there are bike trails in Denver I wouldn't go near on an ex…

Post by dghlsakjg » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 11:03 PM UTC

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How can you tell that they’re over the legal limit?

They look nothing like bicycles. Closer to a motorcycle or moped. If they count as e-bikes the definition is a bad one.

Post by jupp0r » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 7:18 PM UTC

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The major issue is safety. Bikers are much more (3.4x to 11.5x) likely to be fatally injured per mile travelled compared to people driving cars [1]. Better bike infrastructure is needed. [1] https://bicycleuniverse.com/bicycle-safety-almanac/

Yet despite that, the improvement in fitness from commuting by bike rather than car, is so great that switching to bike will statistically increase your lifespan in just about every city in the world. That’s after including the negative impacts of increased exposure to air pollution, and higher likelihood of being fatally injured while commuting. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cycli...

Post by asciimike » Wed, Mar 08, 2023, 2:36 AM UTC

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Denver resident who routinely rides bikes on those trails--mind providing some citations on those so we can know where to avoid? I've never had issues with folks in underpasses while running/biking (mostly early morning hours or commute hours), but could imagine there being issues at different times.

made an account just to comment. i commute in from the highlands to rino about 3/4 of the year and do a bunch of trips to littleton or golden when not work commuting. used this program last year to get an e-bike and have been absolutely loving it (when there isn't ice or snow on the ground). most full on pedestrian trails are genuinely great, especially when helped by higher traffic. i do, however, avoid my most dire…