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Vitamin D supplementation and incident dementia

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Re: Vitamin D supplementation and incident dementia

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I wouldn’t say I have followed the science but my doc prescribed 2000 IUs daily and it definitely makes a noticeable difference in a gloomy winter

What kind of a difference have you noticed? I also take 2000 IUs, but I haven't noticed any significant difference in how I feel since I've started taking it.

How are feeling generally? It's possible you didn't have a deficiency to start with. I went from being completely depressed, barely able to get out of bed to mostly functional (although still not quite as chirpy as I am in summer) when I started taking a vit d supplement in winter.

Re: Vitamin D supplementation and incident dementia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t say I have followed the science but my doc prescribed 2000 IUs daily and it definitely makes a noticeable difference in a gloomy winter

What kind of a difference have you noticed? I also take 2000 IUs, but I haven't noticed any significant difference in how I feel since I've started taking it.

you might want to check on your Vitamin D receptivity. For example, I took a DNA test, and it indicated my Vitamin D receptors weren't as efficient as normal so I should take higher doses than other people.

Re: Vitamin D supplementation and incident dementia

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Hey people who follow the science: As an “indoor human”, how much should I be taking? (TIA!)

I would advise taking a K2 MK7 supplement with D3, or get a supplement that contains both. Personally, I take one capsule a day that contains both 3000IU of D3 and 100μg of K2 MK7. D3 by itself can cause high calcium levels, to the point of toxicity in very high doses. The K2 moves the calcium from the blood to bones.

I take LifeExtension K2 MK7. It's quite inexpensive and LifeExtension is reputable brand.

Re: Vitamin D supplementation and incident dementia

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This is a very neutral headline. But for the tl;dr crowd: > Across all formulations, vitamin D exposure was associated with significantly longer dementia-free survival and lower dementia incidence rate than no exposure (hazard ratio = 0.60, 95% confidence interval: 0.55–0.65). The effect of vitamin D on incidence rate differed significantly across the strata of sex, cognitive status, and APOE ε4 status.

You can get your APOE ε4 status, which is a marker for Alzheimer's and dementia, from any DNA test like 23AndMe. To protect your privacy: use a fake name, new email address, and get a temporary UPS Store mailbox address for the kit to be mailed to. Use a Visa gift card for payment. Yes, it can be done and it works.

Re: Vitamin D supplementation and incident dementia

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Like all studies into Vitamin D supplementation that aren’t randomized controlled trials, it’s very hard to tell apart cause and effect. Vitamin D naturally occurs when people go outside and get exposed to the sun, and going outside is correlated with all sorts of healthy traits. Also, publicity of the association of vitamin D with good health has led people who care about their health or who have access to good medical care to supplement vitamin D. Studies that look at the health of people who choose to supplement vitamin D are examining the overall health of those people and can’t specifically measure the effects of the vitamin D supplementation. That’s one of the problems randomized controlled trials are designed to solve.

The study mentions these limitations:

> Considering that sun exposure is the most important natural source of vitamin D, the lack of information on participant-level exposure to sunlight can be considered another limitation of the present study.

> While we included education in our models, the NACC dataset has a dearth of information related to SES and therefore, SES differences could not be accounted for in our study. Future studies using cohorts with more comprehensive data on SES and other social factors would certainly provide valuable information on the associations of SES with exposure to supplementation and risk of dementia.

For what it’s worth, controlling for a variable like education can only partially remove related bias from a result (you don’t have a perfect measure of how a person decided to take vitamin D).

Re: Vitamin D supplementation and incident dementia

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Like all studies into Vitamin D supplementation that aren’t randomized controlled trials, it’s very hard to tell apart cause and effect. Vitamin D naturally occurs when people go outside and get exposed to the sun, and going outside is correlated with all sorts of healthy traits. Also, publicity of the association of vitamin D with good health has led people who care about their health or who have access to good medi…

When evolution molds a genepool it does so with inbuilt assumptions, one the assumptions is exposure to some level of sunlight. Deviating from these assumptions would result in undefined behavior (in the CS sense) for individuals.

If an individual cannot or will not expose themselves to sunlight, taking D3 is probably the best option they have.

Re: Vitamin D supplementation and incident dementia

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I dove deep into Vitamin D supplementation research during Covid. The tl;dr as I understand it - and bear in mind I'm a layperson in this - is that while Vitamin D deficiency correlates to many bad things, taking Vitamin D doesn't help. It does raise your level as it shows up in blood tests, but the bad things still happen.

Except for some very specific issues.

I have a mild deficiency and used to take Vitamin D. I stopped taking it after consulting with a doctor on the meaning of the VITAL study results [1]. I also recommend [2], from a practicing surgeon who deals with Vitamin D related medical issues in patients.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35939577/ [2] https://www.devaboone.com/post/vitamin-d-part-3-the-evidence

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