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Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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> Buy AMD cards if you run Linux They don't do CUDA, so they're useless.

A generous translation: AMD GPUs are toys. As long as AMD drops the ball on ROCm, etc their cards will be relegated to gaming - quite literally a toy to many people.

I know that from the DaVinci Resolve forums and subreddit, everyone using AMD has all sorts of pain-in-the-arse problems that just don't happen with NVidia, even on Windows.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Official article is more useful: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/02/28/rtx-video-super-res...

I considered submitting that instead, but unless you already know what "RTX Video Super Resolution" does the headline is less descriptive

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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> what else did you expect? A blank screen with just the Netflix icon? Yes > Are the Netflix recommendations ads too? Yes

We're entering troll space, I see.

It's not trolling.

They are ads, and I also would prefer a tastefully blank screen with none of them.

Just to add support to that post.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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> what else did you expect? A blank screen with just the Netflix icon? Yes > Are the Netflix recommendations ads too? Yes

We're entering troll space, I see.

Call me old fashioned, but my TV should display exactly what I tell it to display and precisely nothing else.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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I also have an Nvidia shield that now sits unused for the simple reason that Google forced ads onto the home screen. It used to be that the Shield was the one bastion away from ads on Android TV, then with one update that somehow manages to reinstall itself despite being completely disconnected from the internet, there are now permanently ads on my Nvidia Shield TV. I honestly don't know why it's such a big deal for…

I was the same, really pissed off when they made the change. Luckily, it's android, so you can install a custom launcher. I remember I had to play around with adb a bit, but after that, it's smooth sailing. I use FLauncher[0], but there might be something better out there. [0] https://gitlab.com/flauncher/flauncher

Oh wow, I was put off from getting one because of the ad update a few years ago. If this works well enough I'll probably actually get one now

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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A generous translation: AMD GPUs are toys. As long as AMD drops the ball on ROCm, etc their cards will be relegated to gaming - quite literally a toy to many people.

I know that from the DaVinci Resolve forums and subreddit, everyone using AMD has all sorts of pain-in-the-arse problems that just don't happen with NVidia, even on Windows.

Yeah the downvotes are interesting.

Many users who are happy with "I want a GPU to drive my display and maybe game" are pleased with the current state of AMD - and that's fine. However, that population rarely goes beyond "how many FPS am I getting?". That population regularly complains about the Nvidia closed-source/binary driver situation. A lot of that criticism (from their point of view) is fair - although I've never had issues with the binary driver and as seen in this thread I'm not alone.

However, if they were to expect even just a little bit more - ML, reliable and usable hardware video encoding/decoding, etc they'd quickly realize what we have. The closed-source Nvidia driver is remarkable capable and consistent (from a functionality perspective) supporting every single feature and function of any and every card that says "Nvidia" on it across multiple platforms. From nearly decade-old laptop GPUs to the latest and greatest H100 datacenter GPU and everything in between. This is before you even get to the dozens of libraries Nvidia supports and provides (like cuDNN, TensorRT, etc) that have the same consistent, reliable, and cross-platform functionality.

Again, I understand their perspective and I don't look down on them or their simple use case (gaming on desktop) but in 2023 that's an extremely low bar. There's also a lot of criticism of the Nvidia price point - but those of us who are making full utilization of our hardware and supported features balk at that criticism. What's also interesting is the more buggy and less supported also closed-source (to my knowledge) AMD Pro driver that's required to do anything more than game. So at this point you're still not going to please the open source community and the functionality and experience is worse in every aspect.

My 4090s will not only beat AMD top of the line on just about every gaming benchmark, in seconds (or simultaneously) I can be training an ML model, encoding video, upscaling, doing realtime noise suppression, etc. The functionality fundamentally supported by that driver is amazing. When you look at it from that standpoint an Nvidia card being (at most) 3x the price point is perfectly reasonable. I'm thrilled to spend $1000 more if it means I can actually use the card for what I need and I save many, many hours of my time. In terms of total value it's not even close.

The increase in value, utility, and time returned is astounding and (to many of us) more than justifies the driver situation and cost. I support competition and have tried several times over the years to get ROCm to perform the most basic ML tasks - it's a blackhole of wasted time, energy, and effort (starting with the AMDPro driver). AMD clearly just doesn't care - and even if they decided to throw everything they have at it Nvidia has a decade-plus head start.

I truly wish the AMD software situation was better but I've been let down too many times to be hopeful I will be making anything approaching full use of any AMD GPU anytime in the near future.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Currently only supported by Chrome and Edge. Other Chromium-based browsers seem not to be supported yet (e.g. Vivaldi). Firefox is probably not (yet) supported at all. Checked on Vivaldi and Edge with the Revolution OS video on Youtube.

Works on Brave for me.

Oh yeah, just updated Vivaldi et voilá! AI artifacts in blurry videos! xD

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Yea, was gonna say that CRTs basically gave hardware-level anti-aliasing to every game for free. Playing the same games on an LCD TV makes them look strange and jagged edges stick out a lot more.

The visual properties of CRTs are a surprisingly complex topic. Still images: - 240p and 480i (15 KHz) console games were meant to be played on SDTV CRTs. Most consumer TVs have relatively coarse dot pitch (white lines are actually composed of color dots/stripes spaced relatively far apart). This adds "texture" to game visuals, masking aliasing and blur to a degree. - - I think low-res LCDs actually have a similar ho…

Were Wii games designed to be displayed on CRT or LCD? If I recall correctly, LCD screen were pretty widespread by the time the Wii came out — at least among middle-class Americans.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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I can: Star Trek DS9 (DVD rips). I actually had forgotten the Shield was supposed to be doing AI upscaling since a lot of what I watched for a while was current. I was midway through the series when I traveled somewhere else and used a Roku on a different TV - and it was instantly noticeable. When I got home, I plugged in a Chromecast Google TV to my TV (LG OLED) and watched parts of an episode. The Shield TV made DS…

This happened to me with TNG! I was blown away by the picture quality. That's not something my wife usually notices, but even she commented about how good it looked. I later watched it on a different device and the quality was noticeably worse.

TNG did have a massive amount of time put into remastering it though, DS9 sadly has not.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Yes, the .run drivers from Nvidia. It only happens on a reboot, not while I'm using it, and only maybe once a month, but it's still annoying because I have to ssh in to reinstall the drivers every time. And here I was all hyped that AMD would be my savior. I hope you're wrong!! I'll find out for myself the next time I upgrade and I switch the current AMD card that I'm using on my Windows PC into the ubuntu system.

Using the driver from their site is the number one way to fuck up your system. There has got to be an nvidia package on Ubuntu.

In my experience the ubuntu nvidia packages were hopeless, I forget exactly what it was but I think even basic stuff like hardware video decoding was not working.

Anyway just basic stuff wasn't working and IIRC the GPU fans would stay at 100% all the time. Just terribly broken.

I'm overall happy with the .run drivers from the site except when they come up at the wrong resolution and need reinstalling as I described.

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