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Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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> Buy AMD cards if you run Linux). Experience shows that in practice they also aren't much better than Nvidia in regards to Linux.

Anything that uses qt will suffer on nvidia. There are pros and cons of each by radeon will get you a more intel like experience.

As a KDE Plasma user on a rolling release bistro, I am happy I switched to AMD!

And yes, I realize how much of a niche I inhabit.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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I've been blown away at the AI upscaling on the Nvidia Shield. On my fairly large 4K TV, the Shield can produce picture quality that looks incredible out of source that isn't all that great. On that note, the Shield has been an unexpectedly great purchase over the years. Long life of support from Nvidia, runs Google TV, works incredibly as a gaming console for Steam Linking into my PC and/or playing compatible Androi…

I'm tempted to get one, but it doesn't support HDR+ and some DV profiles, and AVI. Hopefully once the new Nintendo Switch comes out (as that's been the cadence for new Shields) an updated version will come out with updated support.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Those are ads.

It's not like they're showing you ads about shoes or kitchen utensils. It's a TV appliance so.. what else did you expect? A blank screen with just the Netflix icon? Are the Netflix recommendations ads too?

This is your brain on ads.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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I dont feel like I share the same planet with this comment. AMD on Linux is vastly widely better in almost every way. Nvidia is a terrible partner & the binary/closed/proprietary drivers they offer have tons of wrinkles/issues, and whether Nvidia even bothers supporting modern capabilities everyone else agrees on is forever & seemingly always will be in question. Nvidia's whole role in life seems to be competing agai…

Since when is FSR the standard, or even a standard at all? A part from AMD using it. Also, in my experience Nvidia works just fine on linux, you just have to install their drivers. I literally never had an issue with them, and I use it professionally and for games. AMD is probably better if you want bleeding edge updates or use a rolling release distro, but the downside is that you still have to contend with some wei…

While FSR isn't a standard, AMD at least put effort into getting it working on competing Nvidia cards.

Yes, things mostly work when you install the Nvidia Linux drivers. But even on a Ubuntu LTS I've had updates break the Nvidia driver, sleep is a 50/50 toss up whether it resumes broken too. And that's on my desktop and ignoring the giant PITA of using a laptop with hybrid graphics. Using the Nvidia drivers also greatly complicates using a Libre distro like Debian or Guix because obviously they're non-free. Plus until the past year or so Wayland has just been essentially a non-starter with Nvidia even with drivers because of their choices.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Old games like Quake always look pretty janky when upscaled (extreme example of course). The low-poly models seem to become worse the closer you can look at them. I wonder if there’s a level of detail that just fundamentally can be upscaled indefinitely and end up vaguely “looking right”, or if it is just the case that something like Apex Legend was release recently enough that the lift is not so huge.

Maybe the "upscaler" just needs to be a really good CRT emulation.

Yea, was gonna say that CRTs basically gave hardware-level anti-aliasing to every game for free. Playing the same games on an LCD TV makes them look strange and jagged edges stick out a lot more.

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Could you give an example of a TV show that blew you away when processed with Nvidia Shield's upscaling? I tried the feature while streaming HBO's Sopranos, going from 1080p to 4k and it didn't look any better to me, just slightly different with occasional artifacts. I didn't understand the hype around this feature. I believe how good your TV's native upscaling will also be a factor in how improved the Shield's imple…

I can: Star Trek DS9 (DVD rips). I actually had forgotten the Shield was supposed to be doing AI upscaling since a lot of what I watched for a while was current. I was midway through the series when I traveled somewhere else and used a Roku on a different TV - and it was instantly noticeable. When I got home, I plugged in a Chromecast Google TV to my TV (LG OLED) and watched parts of an episode. The Shield TV made DS…

This happened to me with TNG! I was blown away by the picture quality. That's not something my wife usually notices, but even she commented about how good it looked. I later watched it on a different device and the quality was noticeably worse.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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> Buy AMD cards if you run Linux). Experience shows that in practice they also aren't much better than Nvidia in regards to Linux.

Is this true? I'm in the market for an AMD card just to switch over to linux. I'm on an old 1080. Most discussions centered around the various linux communities seem to parrot that AMD is the way to go now because of open source drivers etc. I always wonder how much of it is an echo chamber.

I run Linux on everything, and have a system with nvidia card and one with AMD, so speaking from real experience rather than echo chamber regurgitation (which is definitely a problem in this space so good to be aware of it). I will go AMD every time for gaming and general dual/triple screen monitors. I would only go Nvidia if I needed CUDA (such as for machine learning).

If you need OpenCL or if you go Nvidia and need the proprietary driver, it will make distros like Fedora (my favorite), Arch, etc a lot more difficult as they stay very current on kernels (which is great for hardware compatibility). Nvidia is better than AMD in this regard if you need the AMD pro then you just won't be able to run Fedora. If you don't mind Ubuntu, then you'll be ok. It's well supported for Nvidia drivers and AMD Pro.

I have been amazed at how well everything "just works" with AMD on Fedora, and for that reason AMD is my default.

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I also have an Nvidia shield that now sits unused for the simple reason that Google forced ads onto the home screen. It used to be that the Shield was the one bastion away from ads on Android TV, then with one update that somehow manages to reinstall itself despite being completely disconnected from the internet, there are now permanently ads on my Nvidia Shield TV. I honestly don't know why it's such a big deal for…

I've been a year or so using Sponsor block in addition to basic ad blocking. Now any device that doesn't offer both simply is a complete non starter for me.

you mean something like that?

https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTubeNext/

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It's not like they're showing you ads about shoes or kitchen utensils. It's a TV appliance so.. what else did you expect? A blank screen with just the Netflix icon? Are the Netflix recommendations ads too?

This is your brain on ads.

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Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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Those are ads.

It's not like they're showing you ads about shoes or kitchen utensils. It's a TV appliance so.. what else did you expect? A blank screen with just the Netflix icon? Are the Netflix recommendations ads too?

> what else did you expect? A blank screen with just the Netflix icon?

Yes

> Are the Netflix recommendations ads too?

Yes

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