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Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by bilqis »

kreetx wrote: post #84
geysersam wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want something that you have a right to, other people have to change. Not being discriminated is not a "nice to have", it's a human right. Sex with attractive women on the other hand is definitely not a human right. Is it just me who finds it ridiculous that this has to be spelled out?

I find it funny as well. I guess sex can be considered a human right in a certain way: no third party should be able to stop a consenting group of people to having sex. While this is the wrong definition: another person should have sex with me. This latter definition often seems to be the taken meaning of "sex is a human right" and seems to be interpreted that way to advance the interest of that particular person say…

I think that kind of understanding of “sex is a human right” is one step away from “woman is an object/a service”. And also this “human right” is usually applied to men, but not women. What about woman’s right to have a very attractive sexual partner? Now if have two rights simultaneously, you have a contradiction.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by aeternum »

TheLoafOfBread wrote: post #62
paulrouget wrote: post #37

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No. 30+ men dating 30- women.

Where did 30+ women go in this equation?

They're available. The male-to-female ratio drops precipitously as you increase the age band: https://public.tableau.com/views/PNWMatch_com/Match-PNW-Dash...

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by bradlys »

bilqis wrote: post #138
kevviiinn wrote: post #130

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What an absurdly sexist take, maybe women want to be with someone who is (actually, not 'nice guy') nice and doesn't think that money will get them laid?

While you’re right, and the guy is an incel, I want to mention that for longer periods of time women were forced into living with men just because it usually was the only way of survival. After emancipation, many men basically lost the single attractive trait they have - having a salary. So many men who are now experiencing problems with finding a partner now, say due to being a nasty/abusive/uninteresting/unintellig…

This is such tired, trite, and inaccurate take on the dating market. Talk to more young men. If you think 60% of young men are nasty/abusive/unintelligent/ugly to the point of not deserving any partners - you're clearly insane.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by bilqis »

icare_1er wrote: post #88
geysersam wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want something that you have a right to, other people have to change. Not being discriminated is not a "nice to have", it's a human right. Sex with attractive women on the other hand is definitely not a human right. Is it just me who finds it ridiculous that this has to be spelled out?

Well, if a recruiter does not hire enough blacks or women for IT, that's discriminatory, and social warriors want quotas. Why doesnt that apply similarly to young women "discriminating" young men ? Shouldn't we need quotas here ?

Because another person is not an object, a service or an opportunity, for someone to be able to limit certain group’s access to it.

What about “human right” to have friends?

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by zamnos »

bradlys wrote: post #143
bilqis wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While you’re right, and the guy is an incel, I want to mention that for longer periods of time women were forced into living with men just because it usually was the only way of survival. After emancipation, many men basically lost the single attractive trait they have - having a salary. So many men who are now experiencing problems with finding a partner now, say due to being a nasty/abusive/uninteresting/unintellig…

This is such tired, trite, and inaccurate take on the dating market. Talk to more young men. If you think 60% of young men are nasty/abusive/unintelligent/ugly to the point of not deserving any partners - you're clearly insane.

We must be talking to a different 60% or have different opinions on what constitutes abuse then. Andrew Tate is plenty popular with a certain subset of boys.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by bilqis »

bradlys wrote: post #143
bilqis wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While you’re right, and the guy is an incel, I want to mention that for longer periods of time women were forced into living with men just because it usually was the only way of survival. After emancipation, many men basically lost the single attractive trait they have - having a salary. So many men who are now experiencing problems with finding a partner now, say due to being a nasty/abusive/uninteresting/unintellig…

This is such tired, trite, and inaccurate take on the dating market. Talk to more young men. If you think 60% of young men are nasty/abusive/unintelligent/ugly to the point of not deserving any partners - you're clearly insane.

Of course, people don’t date that much not only because of some of their traits.

Right now it’s a symptom of a much larger social-economic situation, with growing social isolation and poverty

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by majkinetor »

alluro2 wrote: post #58
BenGosub wrote: post #19

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Some ways that might be true I can think of are if you are someone who doesn't build any emotional connection to the other person whatsoever, and always just "do sex" your way, without much of the other person's involvement. Otherwise, strong disagree, as emotional involvement, which depends on so much more than if someone is "higher than 6", and the dynamic of pleasure of getting, and of giving, which highly depends…

A frontend influences bonding disproportionally just initially. With more time passing, one may be more influenced by other qualities of the person. Hence, frontend 10 can be very losy and frontend 5 can be out of this world.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by roarcher »

zamnos wrote: post #145
bradlys wrote: post #143

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This is such tired, trite, and inaccurate take on the dating market. Talk to more young men. If you think 60% of young men are nasty/abusive/unintelligent/ugly to the point of not deserving any partners - you're clearly insane.

We must be talking to a different 60% or have different opinions on what constitutes abuse then. Andrew Tate is plenty popular with a certain subset of boys.

Like all meme influencers, Andrew Tate is popular with a subset of the subset of people who spend way too much time on the internet. If you think that's 60% of men/boys, then perhaps you're part of the subset that spends too much time on the internet. I've never heard anyone even mention his name IRL.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by jocaal »

throwayyy479087 wrote: post #136
unpopularopp wrote: post #100

Isn't that a good thing? I see this as a victory sign of feminism. Women no longer have to live their lives as a second class citizens. Marry > have kids > raise them etc. This is not the default path anymore and of course than means a lot of men would end up alone. Just a natural balancing and how things should have always been.

This should be higher. What's good for the individual is not always what's good for society. I know a few "young spinsters" but I also know a ton of happy, successful single women.

> What's good for the individual is not always what's good for society.

Should we not prioritize the society as a whole, compared to the individual? This is like saying its ok to ignore global warming, because my immediate benefit is much more important than the collective health of society.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by luckylion »

zamnos wrote: post #145
bradlys wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such tired, trite, and inaccurate take on the dating market. Talk to more young men. If you think 60% of young men are nasty/abusive/unintelligent/ugly to the point of not deserving any partners - you're clearly insane.

We must be talking to a different 60% or have different opinions on what constitutes abuse then. Andrew Tate is plenty popular with a certain subset of boys.

You're likely taking symptom for cause. Andrew Tate is the reaction to what's happening. For some people, radicalization is the response to rejection, not just by women, but by society. That's what you're seeing with those kinds of grifters who tap into that.
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