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I have a FairPhone 4 with a card slot? No jack though.
It does? Maybe I misread the specs a few months ago, sorry. But as you said it doesn't have a jack.
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The newer microSD cards are quite fast. Not as fast as built-in storage but fast enough for things like photos and videos if you buy a card with the appropriate speed class. V30 512 GB costs about 40€ including VAT here in Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card#Class
SD cards are made for cameras etc, and they're good for that. They have sequential RW speeds to match common video formats at 1X speed or burst photo capture. The spec sheets won't tell you how terrible the random write speed is, and even the quoted sequential speeds aren't very good, but that's ok for cameras. I use a modern high-end SD card from SanDisk as semi-permanent storage in my MBP. If I copy anything to tha…
150MB/s is nowhere near SSD speed, but it would saturate a SATA I port.
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#923Does anyone notice the irony of it being partly repairable, while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away? The repairability sounds nice, but it is very irrelevant compared to the limited software updates. Imagine buying a Windows laptop and only receiving three years of security updates. (I know, most other phones aren't better.) It would have been better…
> while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away Nope, you don't. It's just that somehow techies seem to have gotten this meme into their heads that an unpatched life isn't worth living. Can't update my phone within 1 microsecond of a patch being released? I guess I might as well just die. Much safer than risking the > The repairability sounds nice, but it…
Do you wish to hear the endless stream of CVE numbers that allow remote exploitation, including Wi-Fi and Bluetooth module vulnerabilities that don't even require an active Internet connection?
Have you ever tried to expose a new server to the Internet and watched the endless barrage of probing requests coming seemingly within seconds?
Have you been a target of DDoS coming from unpatched appliances and modems?
The only place for an unpatched phone is offline, within Farady cage.
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Didn't the US decide to use different frequencies to everyone else?
Plenty of models that can work with all frequencies, so I am not sure if that's enough of a justification. Anyway, your point reminds me that the my "dream smartphone" would be one with no cellular connectivity at all. I'm still waiting for some company to start producing a keychain-sized 4G (or 5G) hotspot with an eSIM, which (I hope) would lead to more people asking for the return of the iPod Touch and for somethin…
https://www.hardwareschotte.de/tests/Surfsticks
Sure, having wifi hotspots would be nice, but this way you don't have to worry about batteries.
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The companies just do what people want - new phones, more capabilities. People will pay up for new physical gadget but not support, so the money is only coming from making new models. The number of old models gets bigger all the time but the number of people updating the software cannot because they have to be paid for by the sales of the new models.
> People will pay up for new physical gadget but not support I have a windows license I paid for like 10 years ago, I upgraded windows 7 to 8 to 10 and now to 11 for free.
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I don't see a 3-year security update as an irony. In fact, I see that as a great gesture for the budget price point android phone has a 3-year software warranty. Nokia probably have done research on this pricing segment to know that the averaging budget android device lifecycle is about 2.x years and guarantee a 3 year security update to make the device more worthy, comparing to other brands at this price point. By t…
They should offer paid-for upgrades after 3 years
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So very much agree. I just want a pocketable, repairable, physically robust generic phone that does all the basic things at modest cost. The only circumstance under which I'd consider the price tag of a 'premium' phone (notice how corporations have trained everyone into this risible use of language?) is if it ran a real OS and could be used as a primary computing device. But until we reach that Schlarrafenland I woul…
Check out Samsung Dex
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#928Earlier quoted context omitted.
SD cards are made for cameras etc, and they're good for that. They have sequential RW speeds to match common video formats at 1X speed or burst photo capture. The spec sheets won't tell you how terrible the random write speed is, and even the quoted sequential speeds aren't very good, but that's ok for cameras. I use a modern high-end SD card from SanDisk as semi-permanent storage in my MBP. If I copy anything to tha…
With a decent filesystem and a ram buffer the better microsd cards still beat an old 5400rpm 128GB HDD's sequential speed when doing random writes of ~500kB files by a fair margin. 150MB/s is nowhere near SSD speed, but it would saturate a SATA I port.
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#929And it comes with a 3mm headphone jack! Hallelujah!! I’m so, so glad someone is stepping up to fill this niche. My only complaint, and it’s kind if a big one, is that the screen is too damn big. I’m tired of phone manufacturers forcing me to carry a television in my pocket. I want something small that I can hold in one hand without a pop socket. I’ll trade performance, camera quality, basically anything for a phone w…
You can get a refurbished Samsung Galaxy S7 for under 99$: https://www.backmarket.com/en-us/l/samsung-galaxy-s7/d416373... And it will under guaranty for at least six months. The website guarantees a at least 70% of the orginal capable batteryu That's what I have. Has a jack, a physical home button and back button, a microSD slot. Don't know your expectations but the camera is better than the expensive camera I bough…
I got the Google pixel 4a 5g and tbh couldn't be happier. Still, if the S7 was faster I would keep using it.
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> Tell your management that usage of v6.0 is as good as gone, and you are wasting resources in doing any work to keep support for it How do you say this without any knowledge whatsoever about the type of app they work on, or their target audience? v6.0 alone is almost 2% of users based on that chart. In fact if you include everything before v8.1, you seem to get something like 8% of users. What if their app, say, pro…
Exactly this. Even if your demographic is the same as the chart, dropping 2% of users can be the difference between profit and destruction. Maybe it's margins that you'll save but keeping those users, possibly bad reviews, maybe market share over a competitor, there's plenty of reasons supporting older versions is not a definitive "waste." Is it a pain to support old SDKs? Yep. But that doesn't make it inherently a w…