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Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by justinclift »

erklik wrote: post #11
granshaw wrote: post #9

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No, men aren’t looking for dates cause online dating has made it really brutal for them and allowed women to be more choosy It’s not by choice

> No, men aren’t looking for dates cause online dating has made it really brutal for them and allowed women to be more choosy Isn't the result the same? More people are single? Or are we saying that more men have polyamorous relationships?

> Or are we saying that more men have polyamorous relationships?

Seems to be this one.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by cjbgkagh »

theteapot wrote: post #80
cjbgkagh wrote: post #68

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That way you can be the living representation of her disappointment in life? It would be hard for me to imagine a hotter hell.

Otherwise she'll die alone, along with his ugly friend.

If a woman has made it to late 30s without reframing her perspective she is unlikely savable and anyone who tries will be punished for it by her ad infinitum.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by justinclift »

mrphoebs wrote: post #78
csomar wrote: post #28

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It's only controversial in the US. Sex work is a legitimate job. We are selling our brain time on a daily basis to employer. Someone else is selling labor and cleaning the sewers. It's exactly the same thing unless you have a religious agenda.

No it's not, it might be acceptable in a few societies but in a vast majority of societies across the globe sex work is both frowned upon and illegal. You are naive if you think all prostitutes are willing participants that chose this as a career. Across the world forced prostitution/sex work is fuelled by human trafficking of women and minors. In an ideal world human beings should be free to make their own choices b…

Simultaneously, it takes some balls (sic) to claim that sex work in all countries is definitely the result of human trafficking (etc).

How about: "In some countries, sex work seems to be illegal and problematic. But in other countries, it's regulated and successful.".

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

csomar wrote: post #28
Beaver117 wrote: post #24

Another controversial comment but I know more and more young men deciding not to waste time pursuing dates and instead going to prostitutes.

It's only controversial in the US. Sex work is a legitimate job. We are selling our brain time on a daily basis to employer. Someone else is selling labor and cleaning the sewers. It's exactly the same thing unless you have a religious agenda.

> It's only controversial in the US

This is just plainly false unless you consider all the red regions in the map to be "US"

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries...

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by justinclift »

throwaway892238 wrote: post #77
barelyauser wrote: post #18

As an asian man who has traveled to LATAM and the US, I am not surprised. American women are super entitled, hard to approach and borderline delusional when selecting men. It is never enough for them. They are hard to approach, judgy and sincerely just a pain in the ass. Women in LATAM for example are a thousand times sweeter, more feminine and approachable.

Women in LATAM are also much more likely to get a boob job as teenagers (it was so common that until a law was passed preventing it, 30 percent of plastic surgeries in Colombia were on underage girls). LATAM cultures are in some ways more warm and welcoming, but in other ways more regressive/toxic, such as their gender roles and sexuality. Seems great to you because you're benefiting from it, but American women proba…

> but in other ways more regressive/toxic

That's a bit unclear. Would you be ok to expand on that? :)

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by klipt »

anovikov wrote: post #39
JesusLovesEwe wrote: post #22

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If you think the situation is any better for young women, you're in for a shock. From where I'm sitting, the propaganda targeting women is far, far more pervasive and destructive. Everything about their relationships - the why, when, who and how - is undermined in an alarming majority of our institutions. Date many and often with no inhibitions, "have fun", don't get "tied down", delay marriage and family or abstain…

OK delaying marriage and family is normal for all countries and all cultures, there's nothing to be done about it and it has nothing to do with Tinder let alone with OnlyFans lol, it's simply because age of maturity has increased due to higher impact of career and education. Of all things you said, i agree only with the "distortion of standards" thing. Again, it's global, has nothing to do with the U.S. or "West" in…

> single parenthood is completely normalised

How? Would the government pay for surrogates for single men?

Unless by "single parenthood" you actually just mean "single motherhood", which hardly seems like the way to run a gender equal society.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by DoreenMichele »

willis936 wrote: post #38
DoreenMichele wrote: post #20

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There's an old joke -- or perhaps humorous observation -- that men want to be the first person a woman sleeps with and women want to be the last person a man sleeps with. Men tend to be looking for sex. Women tend to be looking for long-term relationships. Another similar observation: Men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love.

I'm struggling to think of less accurate generalizations. Maybe that's the line that the old guard is trying to sell to society, but it is not being bought by new generations.

The dating -- or hookup -- scene seems to have changed a lot for younger people. I'm not young, but my primary point was that even in older, more conservative times there was some recognition of the fact that male and female strategies differ and women aren't typically looking for someone pure and untouched.

I've seen multiple comments here by men who seem surprised or something that women often don't care that they are seeing others. And I'm trying to say "It's really not that surprising and if you think about it for a minute, it's a well-known and long-standing pattern, really."

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by justinclift »

causticthrow wrote: post #67
DoreenMichele wrote: post #60

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First, realize that women are just people too and "ninety percent of everything is crap." If you do wish to marry and settle down, you need only ONE good woman and you need to NOT crap all over her the minute you meet her because of baggage. 1. Very beautiful women sometimes set up dating profiles with no photos or take other measures to attract men for reasons other than how photogenic they are. 2. Hobbies are a goo…

Hey Doreen - hope you’re doing better. 1. I haven’t done online dating at all. What I’ve seen in real life is hit and miss. I know too much of the corporate world. Marital affairs, sleeping for promotions, sex parties with upper management/C-levels, you name it. 2. I have hobbies in the arts where I excel, am recognized, and there are lots of women. 3. My closest friends are hardcore players which doesn’t help. While…

Maybe try creating a Tinder profile but er... "fuck up" your picture so that although it's still you, it's not as an attractive version of yourself?

You know, super shitty angle, bad lighting, maybe shitty camera blur, etc?

If that gets too many matches, kill the profile, fuck up the pic(s) even more, and try again?

Try and get the match threshold down to low numbers, and maybe you'll be finding people more to your liking?

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by mrphoebs »

justinclift wrote: post #83
mrphoebs wrote: post #78

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No it's not, it might be acceptable in a few societies but in a vast majority of societies across the globe sex work is both frowned upon and illegal. You are naive if you think all prostitutes are willing participants that chose this as a career. Across the world forced prostitution/sex work is fuelled by human trafficking of women and minors. In an ideal world human beings should be free to make their own choices b…

Simultaneously, it takes some balls (sic) to claim that sex work in all countries is definitely the result of human trafficking (etc). How about: "In some countries, sex work seems to be illegal and problematic. But in other countries, it's regulated and successful.".

I didn't claim sex work in all countries is a result of human trafficking. I said forced prostitution is fuelled by human trafficking.

>"In some countries, sex work seems to be illegal and problematic. But in other countries, it's regulated and successful."

My take is similar to yours, I'm just communicating to the original commentor that the societies where sex work is legitimate, regulated and safe is a minority compared to the societies where it isn't.

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