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Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by Beaver117 »

anovikov wrote: post #39
JesusLovesEwe wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think the situation is any better for young women, you're in for a shock. From where I'm sitting, the propaganda targeting women is far, far more pervasive and destructive. Everything about their relationships - the why, when, who and how - is undermined in an alarming majority of our institutions. Date many and often with no inhibitions, "have fun", don't get "tied down", delay marriage and family or abstain…

OK delaying marriage and family is normal for all countries and all cultures, there's nothing to be done about it and it has nothing to do with Tinder let alone with OnlyFans lol, it's simply because age of maturity has increased due to higher impact of career and education. Of all things you said, i agree only with the "distortion of standards" thing. Again, it's global, has nothing to do with the U.S. or "West" in…

You think Tinder and OnlyFans had no effect on marriage? I assume you also think Uber had no effect on car ownership and Airbnb had no effect on rents?

I urge you to do more research

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by operatingthetan »

dorkwood wrote: post #47
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #17

Will probably get downvoted for this. But I'm a very conventionally attractive guy with a good job in a major US city. I basically have an unlimited stream of dates through dating apps from women of all walks of life. Upwards of 20 - 50 matches a day if I really push it. People already know this, but I dont think they know how bad the schew is. Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care i…

I thought I was a fairly attractive guy. I’ve had interest from attractive women in the past. On dating apps though? Crickets. I’ve had several friends vet my profile (who were quite brutal with their feedback, too) but I still only average around 1 match per week. If I’m supposed to be a somewhat attractive guy, I can imagine the vast majority of men must be getting no interest at all.

I think the poster above you seems to have factors related to their appeal that they aren't considering and thus are improperly generalizing their experience.

E.g. they have finely tuned tinder game. That doesn't in any way support the idea that women are only attracted to a small subset of men. That's an idea taken literally from the incel crowd.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by throwaway892238 »

ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #17

Will probably get downvoted for this. But I'm a very conventionally attractive guy with a good job in a major US city. I basically have an unlimited stream of dates through dating apps from women of all walks of life. Upwards of 20 - 50 matches a day if I really push it. People already know this, but I dont think they know how bad the schew is. Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care i…

I used to get laid a lot from Tinder because I figured out how to game the system. But at some point I realized I didn't actually like the people I was scoring with; yeah maybe they were attractive and we had some basic things in common. But I didn't really want to hang out with them or talk to them.

Eventually I realized I was just trying to get laid, or seem appealing/attractive. When I looked at what I was doing, what I was changing about myself, just to get laid, I realized that wasn't the authentic me.

So I changed my profile and put the authentic me, and just a couple random pictures I'd taken recently. Or sometimes just a joke profile that I find funny. Now I get maybe one match a month. When we do match I'm not interested. And that's fine. I'm older now, and have zero interest in sex with someone who I don't like as a person first. And it turns out I'm a picky bastard, and kind of weird, and there's just not a lot of people who find that attractive.

..... on Tinder, anyway. If I go to meatspace and socialize, in the right places, I find the people I really like, and that like me. It turns out that I'm not actually awful; Tinder is.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by causticthrow »

jimbokun wrote: post #45
causticthrow wrote: post #34

Throwaway. I’m looking for advice. I live in a decently big city, I make very good money - close to 200k which is far above what most people here pull in. Lead teams of people. Am in mid 30s, well over 6ft. White. My (few) sexual partners couldn’t get enough. I work out with a generous physique, get compliments that I can’t even accept these days. I’m extremely jaded. I stopped talking/interacting and even making eye…

Find someone to marry and settle down. Then you won’t be part of the society ruining.

My issue, and it is part of my disgust and the turning into a misogynist, is that I’ve majorly lost trust in the goodwill of women. The issue is that I’m singled out over mostly things I couldn’t choose, and the average joe that didn’t hit this lotto won’t even be looked at by the woman I settle down with. Me knowing this means I have no respect for her. My sympathy for men is turning into misogyny.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by amir734jj »

causticthrow wrote: post #46
amir734jj wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deleted.

Pardon for deftness - what does this have to do with incels?

With rise in expectations, rise in cost of living, housing price increase, in 10 years there will be either single men who rather live alone OR very few prince charming. No third option.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by granshaw »

DanHulton wrote: post #16
newyankee wrote: post #6

The maths of dating never makes sense unless you make some really difficult assumptions. Reminds me of a joke from somewhere: Every happy man is single and every happy woman is married.

I have recently heard the opposite, at least as far as women goes. For a lot of women, especially mothers, being a single mother is a whole lot easier than being a married mother, since there is one less person in the house they have to take care of. A whole lot of men were not socialized to be actual contributing partners, which loops back around into the prime reason why a lot of men are having a hard time dating t…

Breakdown of community and extended family has also contributed. The amount of chores needed to raise a modern family with two working parents and no help, even factoring in childcare, is insane

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by TMWNN »

ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #17

Will probably get downvoted for this. But I'm a very conventionally attractive guy with a good job in a major US city. I basically have an unlimited stream of dates through dating apps from women of all walks of life. Upwards of 20 - 50 matches a day if I really push it. People already know this, but I dont think they know how bad the schew is. Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care i…

>Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care if that guy is dating other women.

Highly relevant: /u/avocados44 recalls the college sex life of Jimmy Garoppolo, current 49ers QB https://np.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/dpz1mh/highlight_jimmy_...>

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by causticthrow »

amir734jj wrote: post #55
causticthrow wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pardon for deftness - what does this have to do with incels?

With rise in expectations, rise in cost of living, housing price increase, in 10 years there will be either single men who rather live alone OR very few prince charming. No third option.

I’m looking for advice on avoiding being a jaded misogynist, not economic forecasts 10 years down the road.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by DoreenMichele »

causticthrow wrote: post #54
jimbokun wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Find someone to marry and settle down. Then you won’t be part of the society ruining.

My issue, and it is part of my disgust and the turning into a misogynist, is that I’ve majorly lost trust in the goodwill of women. The issue is that I’m singled out over mostly things I couldn’t choose, and the average joe that didn’t hit this lotto won’t even be looked at by the woman I settle down with. Me knowing this means I have no respect for her. My sympathy for men is turning into misogyny.

First, realize that women are just people too and "ninety percent of everything is crap." If you do wish to marry and settle down, you need only ONE good woman and you need to NOT crap all over her the minute you meet her because of baggage.

1. Very beautiful women sometimes set up dating profiles with no photos or take other measures to attract men for reasons other than how photogenic they are.

2. Hobbies are a good way to meet people you have things in common with and can present the opportunity to get to know someone socially before you get jiggy.

3. Sometimes introductions via friends can work out. If you are genuinely friends with someone and they know someone that they have sized up and concluded they are not a nutter, etc, sometimes that works surprisingly well.

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