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Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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do you remove all their advertising badges, model numbers, logos from the outside of your car too?

Funny enough, pretty much all German brands give you that as a selectable option for like 100eur :D You get a car with most badging removed.

Would gladly pay 100eur for zero badging.

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You could already replace the stereo in a car if you didn't like it, but you still bought the car.

Not really anymore. Most cars don’t have a discrete radio head unit anymore. The radio is way too integrated with vehicle controls.

Maybe so, mine's 10 years old so I haven't checked more recently.

I assume you can stick a CarPlay supporting screen on top of the existing dashboard at least, but it'd be hard to integrate.

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At my last company we used k8s not primarily because of the scaling capabilities, but as a way to safely deploy applications.

I've seen it used this way too. But that's like buying the mcdonalds supersize family meal because you want the fries. There's better ways to go about it.

At my previous job we used docker swarm for a cluster of a dozen machines. Does not have all the fancy features of k8s but gets the job done to automate deployments

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Preempt RT doesn't really give that. It might give that when you run a subset of Linux, but that is not Linux like nommu Linux is not Linux. They might say that's a bug, but there are countless algorithms and data structures in Linux that mean the state of the system and other workloads can slow down other parts of the system. Even setting aside the fact that a lower privileged process can take spin locks (not "preem…

I'd highly recommend you read the link and the paper it's based on. It's pretty thorough in addressing the limitations. Those same limitations apply to virtually every commercial RTOS out there as well though. As for formally verified systems, depends on your definition of "nontrivial". You can build complex systems from the building blocks provided by the well known examples like SeL4 and pikeos. On a practical leve…

I did read it. I understand and work on Linux including real time Linux. Nothing of what I said is wrong. Hard realtime operating systems of course are more limited than general purpose Linux too, but they tend to have a much better handle on limiting and controlling latency and how non-critical workload can impact critical tasks.

And seL4 is formally verified but as far as I know it has not been formally verified for hard realtime. Funny thing about formal verification is that it's easy to do if you control the requirements :) (/s - nothing to take away from the incredible work of sel4). Last I heard people had sketched or theorized about ways it could be approached, but not done.

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Comments like this actually turn me off buying MB again. I used to have a lot of MB cars back in 90s- 200xs - C-klasse, S-klasse, and then a number of V-klasse and every time it was a pleasure in every sense. Never had any unreasonable problem with them. Buggy software? It was unheard.

Then again, this comment also calls EQS ugly (which it aint) so maybe take it with a grain of salt? :P

Good point :)

Those things are quite subjective, I am just trying to avoid fruitless discussions

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Then again, this comment also calls EQS ugly (which it aint) so maybe take it with a grain of salt? :P

I think you're the first person I know who likes the look of that car. Edit: For over 100k GBP, there are other significantly better options.

I do like it as well. It has MB character, whether you like it or not.

What are those significantly better options?

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Contrary to all the legends of "German quality/engineering" (of which there is certainly in certain industries) I've heard that German cars were shit during the 90s. Japan OTOH seems to be very aware of how these newfangled tech can screw your reputation.

Honestly, I feel like German cars have an undeserved reputation for quality. German cars are superficially well built, quite fast, and make satisfying thunks when you close the doors. However, they are fairly unreliable, sensitive, and when they do fail, cost a lot to repair. I'll take a Japanese car any day, however, Hyundai, Volvo, Skoda, Kia, Peugeot and Ford are also better engineered than most German cars nowada…

Where does this German engineering saying come from? I find German engineering unnecessarily complicated and it looks more or less designed by a committee of bickering members.

Japanese engineering on the other hand in my experience is very solid and also pretty cheap. It is easier to repair and vehicles are like mountain goats that can go anywhere and can be handled roughly.

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What's wrong with it? But yes it seems like more recenr toyotas are crap, especially the interior.

It has a neat feature of auto locking itself if you forgot it, so if you forgot your keys in, they will be autolocked in. The positions of the pedals is not fit for humans (but that's a bit OT) The integrated not readily replaceable without servicing the entire dashboard USB port just broke. The feature to alert me when I'm about to hit an obstacle triggers when I've already done a full stop. The radio touch interfac…

Apart from the electronic junk how is the actual driving experience? Can you drive comfortably with good power?

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It has a neat feature of auto locking itself if you forgot it, so if you forgot your keys in, they will be autolocked in. The positions of the pedals is not fit for humans (but that's a bit OT) The integrated not readily replaceable without servicing the entire dashboard USB port just broke. The feature to alert me when I'm about to hit an obstacle triggers when I've already done a full stop. The radio touch interfac…

Apart from the electronic junk how is the actual driving experience? Can you drive comfortably with good power?

> Can you drive comfortably

As I said, the pedals are placed in a position that was not designed with human beings in mind. So, not really. Quite uncomfortable.

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