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Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by LanceJones »

cududa wrote: post #67
ElijahLynn wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they are not a software company at the core. They need to be to pull this off.

I mean their self driving tech seems to be the most impressive out there

Umm, no. I tried their Drive Pilot L3 system in Germany over the Christmas holidays (MB EQS) and of 8 hours driving, it was only available for me to drive for 12 minutes (and not a continuous 12 minutes, either). Granted this does not mean the system is poor quality, but it's horribly impractical... if it's rarely to ever available.

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Post by BoorishBears »

lh7777 wrote: post #72
qrohlf wrote: post #5

I was recently an owner of a Merced-Benz commercial van, and the software was by far the worst part of that whole experience. It had obvious race-condition type bugs when it came to the user interface layer, but most frustrating was its tendency to succumb to some kind of memory leak on long drives where the entire head unit would just lock up and crash to a black screen after 6-7 hours of being turned on. Because th…

> if the system fails to detect any other vehicles for a period of more than about 90 minutes, it assumes that there is a sensor fault, and refuses to operate I have a current model Sprinter and this behavior is frustrating (thanks for the explanation, by the way, I thought it was a random bug). Cruise will also disengage in heavy rain or snow, with the system saying the sensor is dirty. It wouldn’t be so bad if trad…

> Will I really be able to get replacement parts for the Sprinter when the screen or computer start to die in 10-15 years?

Most likely, yes. Part of why most automotive tech lags behind the times on raw performance is guarantees around things like how long you can source a given SoC, for example. 10 years is not an uncommon manufacturing lifetime in the space, and a Sprinter is a relatively high volume car so I wouldn't be too concerned about MB producing/stocking spares

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Post by jagged-chisel »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #76
rolenthedeep wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please press the brake or accelerator to confirm your subscription

Or just wait until ADAS front assist gets a false positive around a t junction and someone stops in your rear.

I mean … following too closely gets you liability for the collision and typically a citation.

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Post by ht85 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #101
lh7777 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if the system fails to detect any other vehicles for a period of more than about 90 minutes, it assumes that there is a sensor fault, and refuses to operate I have a current model Sprinter and this behavior is frustrating (thanks for the explanation, by the way, I thought it was a random bug). Cruise will also disengage in heavy rain or snow, with the system saying the sensor is dirty. It wouldn’t be so bad if trad…

> Cruise will also disengage in heavy rain or snow That’s what it should do, honestly. It’s not safe to drive with cruise control in low traction conditions.

Yeah, the manual explicitly says that cruise control should only be used in clear weather conditions.

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Post by radicaldreamer »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #88
GoToRO wrote: post #81

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That sw does not come from Mercedes, they just buy different devices for what they need from suppliers. The salary offered by one such supplier for a graduate engineer was less than what a construction company was offering to hang dry wall (qualified worker). The construction company was raising a new building for the supplier.

That's mostly an irrelevant detail. Mercedes may not be the OEM in this instance, though they are certainly the vendor, who put their name and reputation to it.

Exactly, the buck stops with Mercedes. It's on Mercedes for not investing in higher quality software for their vehicles.

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Post by ht85 »

layer8 wrote: post #110
Zetice wrote: post #103

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I'm blown away you think "[women] give me their number" is like... something we ought to know about using the home grown Merc infotainment system? Like that's a feature I look for in my vehicle onboard computer, a "propensity for women to want to date me while I order fast food" metric. So many questions. So many.

If it works consistently, it would sure be a major selling point. ;)

Wouldn't someone giving you their number based on the car you drive be a giant red flag?

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Post by twroieuwro43 »

qrohlf wrote: post #5

I was recently an owner of a Merced-Benz commercial van, and the software was by far the worst part of that whole experience. It had obvious race-condition type bugs when it came to the user interface layer, but most frustrating was its tendency to succumb to some kind of memory leak on long drives where the entire head unit would just lock up and crash to a black screen after 6-7 hours of being turned on. Because th…

Contrary to all the legends of "German quality/engineering" (of which there is certainly in certain industries) I've heard that German cars were shit during the 90s.

Japan OTOH seems to be very aware of how these newfangled tech can screw your reputation.

Re: Mercedes-Benz previews its operating system MB.OS

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Post by radicaldreamer »

ptkanchi wrote: post #115

Yikes, I don't feel like Benz has the Software Engineering talent to pull something like this off, which will definitely make me hesitate in getting in a car that runs the OS

A lot of people will (wisely) wait to see how this pans out before getting a car with this software in it.

The car industry is full of manufacturers who decided to build their own software and failed miserably -- this continues to this day. With the exception of Tesla, very little car software matches anything like CarPlay or Android Auto and that's basically a medium sized feature of your phone.

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Post by astrange »

whiplash451 wrote: post #20

Lots of negative comments in this thread, which I can understand. But let’s be fair, for a car manufacturer, carplay is the kiss of death.

You could already replace the stereo in a car if you didn't like it, but you still bought the car.
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