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Post by doubled112 »

eckza wrote: post #144
coffeebeqn wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m also horrified by the trend to put more and more of the meters into the UI. My Ford has done the booting thing before on a highway as well as once it flipped the screen horizontally until it was shut down and started again. I can’t imagine the quality is any better for the display components that will replace speedometers and such

My (admittedly-beloved) 2015 F-150 will reboot Sync if I'm listening to music (usually on Soundcloud) if the song title includes non-ASCII characters.

My 2011 Ford Focus with Sync would randomly lock up and loop the same 10th of a second of the current track. Like a really old PC if it crashed while playing a sound.

Turning the car and back on again to stop the noise got old really fast. All of the radio inputs stopped working when this happened.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

osrec wrote: post #173

Mercedes has been disappointing me over and over again. Their car body designs are becoming difficult to look at, especially the electric range (the EQS is one ugly car). Their software is HORRENDOUSLY buggy. Their 2007 S-Class is a smoother ride than their 2022 model. I love what Mercedes used to stand for, but right now they are pretty much selling cars on brand value, not because they're actually great cars. The n…

Those cheap electronics are the main selling point of the car. Flashy, blinky, lots of nvidia chips. That’s all there is to it.

It happens to all brands slowly. Cars have no longer any excitement to offer so manufacturers load them up with this cheap crap.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

michaelteter wrote: post #180

> The next generation of SAE Level 2 automated driving will start in the Entry segment, leveraging the full potential of machine learning. Forgive me, but my expectations for the "full potential" of machine learning are not so high. They're definitely not high enough to trust my life with.

It doesn’t matter. The legislator is sold on this, it’s required by law, nobody cared what we think. Number of accidents goes down annually and nobody cares that edge cases like you or me are pissed off that we’re no longer in control. Because, you see, apparently driving a car is a privilege and not a right.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

maldev wrote: post #33

Everyones talking about alot of negatives. But I have a E53 AMG 4matic+ coup. It looks amazing, like constant compliments, i've even had people compliment it and give me their number in a wendy's drive through. But the OS(MBUX 2) is actually really good, at first I was a bit negative on it. But the way they have everything integrated that isn't really possible with apple play is nice. The dash is customizable, I have…

So a big flashy glowing dick extension. It strokes the owner’s ego.

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Post by cpeterso »

xp84 wrote: post #157
eckza wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My (admittedly-beloved) 2015 F-150 will reboot Sync if I'm listening to music (usually on Soundcloud) if the song title includes non-ASCII characters.

I'm reminded of: ( https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-roman-mars-mazda-... ) the Mazda head unit being allergic to Roman Mars.

Or Janet Jackson's song Rhythm Nation crashing some old laptop hard drives, due to the hard drives' resonant frequency. The manufacturer worked around the problem by adding a custom filter in the audio pipeline that detected and removed the offending frequencies during audio playback.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20220920-00/?p=10...

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Post by redtriumph »

haliskerbas wrote: post #29

The best car OS so far (even better than Tesla IMO) has been Apple CarPlay. Just be dumb and let my phone handle it, and make the touch screen decent. Bonus points if you implement the multi screen CarPlay concept! Just give up!

JFYI, Apple CarPlay never have been an OS. People often get confused between the foundation SW that OEM provides and consumer overlay that companies like Apple, Google provide. Both are not the same. One cannot replace another.

You can refer to this blog about more popular misconceptions among consumers. https://blogs.blackberry.com/en/2022/10/the-top-9-misconcept...

Disclaimer: Worked for a Teir1 SW provider in past.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

maldev wrote: post #151
Zetice wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm blown away you think "[women] give me their number" is like... something we ought to know about using the home grown Merc infotainment system? Like that's a feature I look for in my vehicle onboard computer, a "propensity for women to want to date me while I order fast food" metric. So many questions. So many.

The infotainment and lighting + other controls really sells it… I more meant that even from a style standpoint, I never had that happen when I drove a Honda. There’s also features like making the engine “purr” which works really well on dates. There’s just a lot of integrated features they can control, to the point that not only is it useable and I like it better than CarPlay. It also has tangible benefits and genuin…

> There’s also features like making the engine “purr” which works really well on dates.

100% it just plays some sound via speakers. Nothing to do with an engine. But a sale has been made.

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Post by redtriumph »

nanidin wrote: post #214
megatoaster wrote: post #45

“In China, Mercedes-Benz is engaging in a local cloud partnership with Tencent to support its automated driving systems. An enriched UI for automated driving functions including an advanced lane-level map view is planned.” Tencent, really? How did that come about?

This is how deals are done in China. You want to expose your cloud service to Chinese users? You need to partner with a Chinese company that will effectively run the cloud infrastructure, possibly run the server software, and definitely have access to all of your IP and certificates. The real question for me is what does an ADAS system rely on the cloud for? Hopefully nothing in real time.

The concern among many eastern countries regarding cloud usage is location of data storage. ADAS system could rely on cloud for - Getting updated maps (HD in some cases) - Storing/uploading camera data for analytics/replay among other things...

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Post by bootlooped »

lh7777 wrote: post #72
qrohlf wrote: post #5

I was recently an owner of a Merced-Benz commercial van, and the software was by far the worst part of that whole experience. It had obvious race-condition type bugs when it came to the user interface layer, but most frustrating was its tendency to succumb to some kind of memory leak on long drives where the entire head unit would just lock up and crash to a black screen after 6-7 hours of being turned on. Because th…

> if the system fails to detect any other vehicles for a period of more than about 90 minutes, it assumes that there is a sensor fault, and refuses to operate I have a current model Sprinter and this behavior is frustrating (thanks for the explanation, by the way, I thought it was a random bug). Cruise will also disengage in heavy rain or snow, with the system saying the sensor is dirty. It wouldn’t be so bad if trad…

> Cruise will also disengage in heavy rain or snow, with the system saying the sensor is dirty. It wouldn’t be so bad if traditional cruise control would keep working without the active braking assist, etc. but unfortunately it’s all or nothing.

A previous car I had, a 2019 CRV, did this too. I understand that it could be a very dangerous situation if the driver forgets or doesn't realize they're only using the dumb cruise control instead of the adaptive cruise control they're used to.

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Post by harry8 »

PebblesHD wrote: post #170

> …and receive offers tailored to their interests… The day my car starts showing me advertisements of any kind is the day I take a sledgehammer to its infotainment system. For a luxury car brand to even include this in their copy they send out is a bit worrying.

do you remove all their advertising badges, model numbers, logos from the outside of your car too?
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