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Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by Nathanba »

fwlr wrote: post #133
kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

> All suggestions are welcome. Monetize it! Evil answer: Partner with an advertiser and sell https://api.opencagedata.com/geocode/v1/json as an ad space. This may be the first opportunity for an application/json-encoded advertisement. Nice answer: Partner with an actual phone lookup platform and respond with a 301 Moved Permanently at the endpoint.

Another suggestion: put something like libphonenumber’s isPossibleNumber or isValidNumber on your server, on error run the query string through it. If it says that looks like a phone number, relay this information in the error response. A field in the JSON response like “info: Your query parameter looks like a phone number. If you are trying to get the geographical location of a phone from the phone number, please be…

yeah I think maybe the way to solve this is to add some kind of API documentation that explicitly mentions that phone lookups aren't possible. ChatGPT will parse it eventually...

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Post by kissgyorgy »

I tried to ask ChatGPT about implementing an SSH SFTP subsystem with github.com/gliderlabs/ssh and every single answer it made up some non-existing API. I did not found those functions anywhere near the codebase nor on the internet, so I don't even understand how a "probabilistic model" can suggest something that have 0 chance of appearing anywhere.

Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by fijiaarone »

rosywoozlechan wrote: post #64
kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

> All suggestions are welcome. Monetize it! Evil answer: Partner with an advertiser and sell https://api.opencagedata.com/geocode/v1/json as an ad space. This may be the first opportunity for an application/json-encoded advertisement. Nice answer: Partner with an actual phone lookup platform and respond with a 301 Moved Permanently at the endpoint.

there's no "actual phone lookup platform" you can't get a person's location by knowing their phone number, that's a huge privacy violation. You can get the location of your own phone via icloud or google's system for android. You could also install an app on your phone to track your phone's location. You cannot find people based on knowing their phone number, that would be a serious safety issue for you know people t…

Yeah only the government can do that.

Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by fijiaarone »

inportb wrote: post #160
anaganisk wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, based on the BS these LLMs spout and companies start pivoting. The govts should start writing laws?

Great idea! Governments should start writing laws using LLMs.

If an AI is just a large language model without any ethical reasoning, what is a lawyer but the same thing with a smaller language model?

Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by bdcravens »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #74
kelseyfrog wrote: post #18

> All suggestions are welcome. Monetize it! Evil answer: Partner with an advertiser and sell https://api.opencagedata.com/geocode/v1/json as an ad space. This may be the first opportunity for an application/json-encoded advertisement. Nice answer: Partner with an actual phone lookup platform and respond with a 301 Moved Permanently at the endpoint.

> actual phone lookup platform uh, you mean stalker / scammer platform? This would be a major privacy violation.

Twilio's API has this functionality. I've mostly used it to identify scammers using VOIP or phone numbers I don't recognize - it usually returns nothing but network info, but sometimes it'll return the account owner's name if it's a cellular (and landline maybe)

https://www.twilio.com/docs/lookup

Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by fijiaarone »

wvenable wrote: post #104
VectorLock wrote: post #88

This is the biggest problem I encounter when trying to use ChatGPT on a daily basis for computer programming tasks. It "hallucinates" plausible looking code that never existed or would never work, especially confusing whats in one module or API for something in another. This is where ChatGPT breaks when pushed a bit further than "make customized StackOverflow snippets." For example I asked ChatGPT to show me how to u…

The problem is compounded by the fact that sometimes it produces really good results. One task, good results. Next task, totally hallucinated result.

That’s what my boss said about me on my last performance review.

Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by fijiaarone »

impalallama wrote: post #157
hayksaakian wrote: post #11

This marks the new age of "AI Optimization" where companies will strive to get their business featured into answers in ChatGPT. The OP's example is Unwanted demand, but it clearly shows that ChatGPT can funnel potential customers towards a product or service.

God I can just see a company using chatgpt to Astroterf huge amounts of data on the internet about their service to hopefully get that sludge feed back into their system and then become recommended. What a world.

I can think of a good way to generate all that astroturf content.

Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by fijiaarone »

jxy wrote: post #68
geoelectric wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought for sure that must be glitching, so just tried on my ChatGPT Plus account with a fresh thread, but nope: > does 2 pounds of feathers weigh more than 1 pound of bricks? > No, two pounds of feathers weigh the same as one pound of bricks. The weight of an object is determined by its mass, and one pound of any object weighs the same as one pound of any other object. However, feathers are less dense than bricks,…

This is hilarious. ChatGPT even gave me a more bizarre example. > does 2 pounds of bricks weigh more than 1 pound of bricks? > No, 2 pounds of bricks do not weigh less or more than 1 pound of bricks. 2 pounds of bricks and 1 pound of bricks refer to the same unit of weight, which is a pound. Therefore, they weigh the same, which is one pound. The difference between them is only the quantity, not the weight. > It's si…

I think ChatGPT can’t help it. It has to lie.

Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by rcme »

alfalfasprout wrote: post #172
cypress66 wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing "by definition" that says so. In fact many propose that when you train an LLM, in order to be able to predict the next word with enough accuracy, it must internally build a world model. Yann Lecun is very salty about chatgpt, I wouldn't take his word seriously.

Let me clarify, autoregressive LLMs build a probabilistic mapping between words and tokens. They don't actually understand what these concepts mean. Only what they appear in conjunction with, etc. We (and most animals) interact with the physical world and learn through a combination of doing, experiencing, biology, and book learning. That lets us reason about how things work in unseen contexts and we know what we kno…

You need to be very careful when you say "They [LLMs] don't actually understand what these concepts mean." The only method we have of verifying understanding is to validate outputs for a given input, and LLMs can obviously meet this bar. Unless you have another way?

Re: Don't believe ChatGPT – we do not offer a "phone lookup" service

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Post by krainboltgreene »

icedchai wrote: post #166
insane_dreamer wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> actual phone lookup platform uh, you mean stalker / scammer platform? This would be a major privacy violation.

That ship sailed a long time ago. Any major search engine will provide this service. I entered both of my primary phone numbers and my name (and location) was in the first hit.

Sometimes you people are way too online and think the rest of the world is with you there.
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