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Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Nationalizing is an overreach. This is why events like this have to be downplayed because if you don’t the vultures will swoop in with their own agendas and try to stir up emotions to garner support for unpopular causes.

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Well given the way they've been running Amtrack I don't trust their ability to run shipping.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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I mean thats being pushed onto the Chinese domestic population, probably to drown out any coverage of the balloons for them. Maybe its bleeding over to US media but I suspect its more propaganda for them than a concerted propaganda effort for foreign audiences.

It went viral on TikTok

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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It's honestly that there's not much story because it looks worse than it is. Chemicals are counter-intuitive. People don't have a good match for looks-scary to is-scary. I watch the Checmical Safety Board incident report videos from time-to-time. The most common killer in chemical plants? Carbon monoxide: odorless, colorless, tasteless, and simply displaces oxygen. You climb into an enclosed space, have just enough t…

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Exactly this. Nobody claiming this shit is safe will put their lives where their mouths are. Nobody in this thread moaning about people not trusting the experts will consider moving their families into this town to show the rest of us how trustworthy they really think the government is.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Where are the environmentalists? This is a huge catastrophe that will have long term repercussions across a wide area. Are all the climate change organizations/lobbyists actually corporate sponsored and don't want to rock the boat? There is little information on why so many trains with hazardous cargos are derailing in north America. This could be sabotage by malevolent actors.

> This is a huge catastrophe that will have long term repercussions across a wide area.

No it’s not, and no it won’t.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Before everyone loses there mind, because this story has oddly been on blast 2 weeks after the incident: VC is a gas a room temperature. None of the VC cars were ruptured in the crash. They were vented and ignited by workers to avoid explosion. Burning VC produces carbon oxides, HCl, phosgene, and formaldehyde. HCl, Phosgene become hydrochloric acid in the atmosphere. The total amount of hydrochloric acid this could…

Agreed on not losing your mind, that's never good to do, but downplaying it is too far on the other scale. Seems too early to tell doesn't it? I don't think you can safely say "it would hardly register" without knowing the results from the contaminated regions... -- Water Runoff Responding crews discovered contaminated runoff on two surface water streams: Sulphur Run and Leslie Run. Under Ohio EPA oversight, Norfolk…

I think this is more evidence of the effectiveness of our safeguards and procedures than anything else.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Another 4Chan conspiracy proven to be false! Toxic fumes are proven by science to be safe and effective. The dose never leaves the muscle tissue.

> The dose never leaves the muscle tissue.

Yes it does, quite rapidly in fact.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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This might be an unpopular opinion, but the speed at which this story has overtaken social media has made me skeptical. That coupled with the fact that the story practically doesn't exist in mainstream media. And in this case I just don't buy the whole "lamestream" media narrative. The mainstream media was all over the water crisis in Flint, Michigan. There's no reason they wouldn't be interested in giving more cover…

It went viral on TikTok. Was that entirely organic? Or did the Chinese government throw some tinder on the fire? It’s pretty bad that they have the capability.

Not sure if you misread it but I said it was inorganic.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Maybe I missed it but does anyone know where these things were going/delivered to? What's the use for chemicals like this? I can't seem to find any info.

Vinyl chloride (VC) is used to make polyvinyl chloride (PVC), an inert plastic material used in all sorts of things, but is well known as the PVC in PVC pipes which are used everywhere.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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I've been seeing content on Tiktok where even 100 miles away they're seeing small dead fish which is apparently according to the folks making the videos a massive red flag. In general I grow super weary of companies and the government downplaying these sorts of things. It seems to constantly follow the pattern of people saying "It's not that bad" and then only years later do we actually see the horrific health and en…

A tad of Yes, Minister wisdom [1]: "The Four Stage Strategy: Stage 1. Nothing is going to happen. Stage 2. Something may happen, but we should do nothing about it. Stage 3. Maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do. Stage 4. Maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now." [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXIetP5iak

Legislation passed under President Obama required trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes.

The law was rescinded in 2017 by the Trump administration.

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