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Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by cs702 »

More and more, this is starting to look like a major f#ck-up by Norfolk Southern.

Given the geographical extent of the derailment's impact (well over 100+ miles, encompassing Pittsburgh and surrounding areas), it's not hard to imagine how it will lead to the kind of class-action lawsuit that can hobble or even bankrupt the entire company.

Ugly, ugly, ugly.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by rcme »

shadowgovt wrote: post #179
perihelions wrote: post #7

- "On Sunday, the EPA released a list, written by Norfolk Southern, of the toxic chemicals that were in the derailed cars. In addition to vinyl chloride and butyl acrylate, it mentions ethylhexyl acrylate, which can cause headaches, nausea, and respiratory problems in people exposed to it; as well as isobutylene, which can make people dizzy and drowsy." This is anodyne phrasing that omits the lede, which is that this…

In general, there's no particular need to make the list of chemicals public. In the event of emergency, every container is stamped with one or two standard labels indicating the nature of the chemical threat and what firefighters need to do to address it; otherwise, it's as important to people as what's in the tractor-trailer in front of them on the highway. It might be worth having a discussion about the fact that t…

> In general, there's no particular need to make the list of chemicals public. In the event of emergency, every container is stamped with one or two standard labels indicating the nature of the chemical threat and what firefighters need to do to address it

What part of the hazard warning indicates what's required for environmental remediation? In order to properly remediate, you need to know what you're dealing with.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by ska »

BalinKing wrote: post #139
smcl wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you: - weary of these getting downplayed (pron. wee-ree = you are tired of it) - wary of these getting downplayed (pron. way-ray = you are suspicious of it)

Isn’t “grow weary” a common phrase, though?

so is "grow wary", which is the potential problem.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by mrguyorama »

rgrieselhuber wrote: post #17
fredgrott wrote: post #5

What is being underplayed: -Same chemical by products as the chemicals stored at the Bhopal disaster -Railroad unions have been warning of this outcome for more than 10 years They will end up suing NS as the town will have to be evacuated again and demolished as they will find that the water-table has been polluted beyond repair.

Not sure why this is being downvoted.

Because it's entirely wrong.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by joseph_grobbles »

colpabar wrote: post #29
Workaccount2 wrote: post #15

Before everyone loses there mind, because this story has oddly been on blast 2 weeks after the incident: VC is a gas a room temperature. None of the VC cars were ruptured in the crash. They were vented and ignited by workers to avoid explosion. Burning VC produces carbon oxides, HCl, phosgene, and formaldehyde. HCl, Phosgene become hydrochloric acid in the atmosphere. The total amount of hydrochloric acid this could…

The reason people are so upset isn't necessarily because of the environmental impact, it's because the people who work on these trains have been warning things like this could happen for years, and when they tried to strike over it, the federal government stepped in and crushed them into submission. There was a car on that train that was on fire for at least 20 miles before the derailment. If I can get pulled over fo…

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by Apocryphon »

mrguyorama wrote: post #206
chaps wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you think this is blown out of proportion. The fact that they had fear of the train car explode and cause a much worse disaster (ie, not small scale) cannot and should not be written off.

People all over social media are calling this "Chernobyl", which is absurd.

A lot are also calling this "Bhopal"
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