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Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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This is basically the plot of “white noise” with Adam driver (on netflix).

Which oddly enough was filmed in the town this happened in… the universe is weird.

Oh wow. Well that probably means it happened before?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

#13
Related:

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34772687

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34759611

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34676114

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34762965

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34770772

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

#14
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which oddly enough was filmed in the town this happened in… the universe is weird.

Oh wow. Well that probably means it happened before?

Lots of people saw this coming. This isn't a surprise, but it is horrifying. The safety concerns were a large part of the railroad workers union's complaints a few months ago, which was squashed by the US gov. All the corners have been cut to extract more value for shareholders, and there's nothing left to squeeze out.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Before everyone loses there mind, because this story has oddly been on blast 2 weeks after the incident:

VC is a gas a room temperature. None of the VC cars were ruptured in the crash. They were vented and ignited by workers to avoid explosion. Burning VC produces carbon oxides, HCl, phosgene, and formaldehyde. HCl, Phosgene become hydrochloric acid in the atmosphere. The total amount of hydrochloric acid this could possibly produce would hardly register in the water table. Formaldehyde would be trace too, similar to fruits and vegetables.

EPA site details without the hysteria:

https://response.epa.gov/site/site_profile.aspx?site_id=1593...

List of cars in the accident:

https://response.epa.gov/sites/15933/files/TRAIN%2032N%20-%2...

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Here is the USDOT press release from 2017 on this: https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/news/usdot-announces-intent-repeal...

Can anyone speak to whether these electronically controlled pneumatic brakes would have prevented or lessened the severity of this derailment in Ohio?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

#17

What is being underplayed: -Same chemical by products as the chemicals stored at the Bhopal disaster -Railroad unions have been warning of this outcome for more than 10 years They will end up suing NS as the town will have to be evacuated again and demolished as they will find that the water-table has been polluted beyond repair.

Not sure why this is being downvoted.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Before everyone loses there mind, because this story has oddly been on blast 2 weeks after the incident: VC is a gas a room temperature. None of the VC cars were ruptured in the crash. They were vented and ignited by workers to avoid explosion. Burning VC produces carbon oxides, HCl, phosgene, and formaldehyde. HCl, Phosgene become hydrochloric acid in the atmosphere. The total amount of hydrochloric acid this could…

Agreed on not losing your mind, that's never good to do, but downplaying it is too far on the other scale.

Seems too early to tell doesn't it? I don't think you can safely say "it would hardly register" without knowing the results from the contaminated regions...

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Water Runoff

Responding crews discovered contaminated runoff on two surface water streams: Sulphur Run and Leslie Run. Under Ohio EPA oversight, Norfolk Southern emergency response contractors installed booms and underflow dams to restrict the flow of contaminated water as well as contain and collect floating product.

U.S. EPA took water samples at the streams and has sent them to a laboratory for analysis. Emergency response staff noticed impacted aquatic life and notified the Ohio Department of Natural Resources and the U.S. Department of Interior. Ohio DNR is on site and is assessing the situation and the impacts to aquatic life. Downstream water utilities were also notified.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

#19

NBC suit and mask is starting to go from "crazy prepper territory" to sane supply keeping.

We live in a country where everything important is owned and controlled by billionaires or hedge funds who also control the government via bribery. Events like this make me think that it's much, much crazier to trust the government to keep us safe.
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