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Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by ASalazarMX »

m000 wrote: post #95
jsonne wrote: post #67

I've been seeing content on Tiktok where even 100 miles away they're seeing small dead fish which is apparently according to the folks making the videos a massive red flag. In general I grow super weary of companies and the government downplaying these sorts of things. It seems to constantly follow the pattern of people saying "It's not that bad" and then only years later do we actually see the horrific health and en…

A number of rescued foxes and other wild animals were also affected in the nearby area [1]. [1] https://www.newsweek.com/fox-dies-owners-arms-after-ohio-tra...

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by xadhominemx »

nimbius wrote: post #94
grecy wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> which can cause headaches, nausea, and respiratory problems.... can make people dizzy and drowsy I also love this phrasing that talks about the immediate uncomfortable reactions, but makes no mention on the extremely serious long-term implications of exposure. These chemicals won't just make you feel unpleasant in the moment, they'll kill you in the long run.

> can make people dizzy and drowsy LMFAO vinyl chloride is a multi-organ carcinogen...its literally one of the quickest ways to stage 4 right up there with Benzene exposure. phosgene was also part of the release when Ohio decided a "controlled burn" of the vinyl chloride was somehow a good idea. the plume could be seen from commercial flights. honest to god the damage control media outlets are attempting in the midst…

> LMFAO vinyl chloride is a multi-organ carcinogen...its literally one of the quickest ways to stage 4 right up there with Benzene exposure.

No it’s not

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by realce »

xadhominemx wrote: post #115
duffyjp wrote: post #78

I just watched the HBO Chernobyl miniseries (excellent, btw) and the parallels to the initial lack of action to a huge public health threat is chilling. If there is a carcinogen in the air, get people out of there!

There is not a carcinogen in the air. They evacuated the town while they performed the controlled burn, but now the combustion products (not really carcinogens) have dispersed and it’s safe to return.

So you would feel fine having your kids live their day-to-day in this area? Would you buy a house 1 mile away from the epicenter?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by [deleted] »

ajross wrote: post #73
Workaccount2 wrote: post #15

Before everyone loses there mind, because this story has oddly been on blast 2 weeks after the incident: VC is a gas a room temperature. None of the VC cars were ruptured in the crash. They were vented and ignited by workers to avoid explosion. Burning VC produces carbon oxides, HCl, phosgene, and formaldehyde. HCl, Phosgene become hydrochloric acid in the atmosphere. The total amount of hydrochloric acid this could…

This take needs more coverage. In fact the current freakout is almost entirely due to the deliberate burn and the big plume it caused, with almost no one taking the time to explain that the combustion products are simply much safer than the products that were leaking. But everyone wants to cover how it smells in East Palestine and not what the options were. (And to everyone replying with "But it's ACTUALLY about the…

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by nerdponx »

missedthecue wrote: post #113
smcl wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you: - weary of these getting downplayed (pron. wee-ree = you are tired of it) - wary of these getting downplayed (pron. way-ray = you are suspicious of it)

I think people combine leery and wary in their mind and end up with weary, which they don't intend. I see it a lot. In the case of the parent comment however, weary does work.

And/or they've seen the word "weary" and assume it's pronounced like "wary", so they spell the word "wary" as "weary".

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by shock-value »

petesergeant wrote: post #91

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I don’t know or care what Chinese internal media is reporting — this is a significant story in the U.S. that is getting less play than it should. It’s an ecological disaster with potentially significant health concerns, and likely involves corporate negligence as well as a failure of governance by both political parties who recently forced rail workers back to work despite complaints related to possible causes of this derailment (and others).

The spy/balloon thing is way less significant and has been ongoing by both sides for years or even decades if my understanding is correct.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by flavius29663 »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #15

Before everyone loses there mind, because this story has oddly been on blast 2 weeks after the incident: VC is a gas a room temperature. None of the VC cars were ruptured in the crash. They were vented and ignited by workers to avoid explosion. Burning VC produces carbon oxides, HCl, phosgene, and formaldehyde. HCl, Phosgene become hydrochloric acid in the atmosphere. The total amount of hydrochloric acid this could…

So how do you explain the dead fish, chickens, and people with rashes etc.?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by BalinKing »

smcl wrote: post #100
jsonne wrote: post #67

I've been seeing content on Tiktok where even 100 miles away they're seeing small dead fish which is apparently according to the folks making the videos a massive red flag. In general I grow super weary of companies and the government downplaying these sorts of things. It seems to constantly follow the pattern of people saying "It's not that bad" and then only years later do we actually see the horrific health and en…

Are you: - weary of these getting downplayed (pron. wee-ree = you are tired of it) - wary of these getting downplayed (pron. way-ray = you are suspicious of it)

Isn’t “grow weary” a common phrase, though?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Post by whamlastxmas »

Sakos wrote: post #84
Pegasus930 wrote: post #20

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No. The problem is how they treat the elections like a popularity contest without regard to how it affects them or their quality of life. It sucks how this will affect them. It really does. However, these are the consequences for voting in people who don't give a shit about you in the slightest.

It is beyond parody to try to blame Trump for this after Biden's recent rail worker action and the fact that he hasn't been president for two years now. Biden has had plenty of time to correct any alleged awful thing Trump did in regards to this industry.
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