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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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I am absolutely certain this is to suppress wages and employee rights. It is a coordinated effort across the industry and should be immediately investigated.

I'm pretty sure you're allowed, as management, to notice what your competitors do and respond accordingly. It's, you know, the foundation of all price discovery. You just can't make actual agreements with them.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I choose Teams over Slack any day. I much prefer thread-based chat than message based chat. Teams forces people to use top message as a topic, then respond to messages under that topic. Slack message is just a message. You want to search something on Teams, you get full threads, chat is part of documentation. You want to find something on Slack, you need to click on date of the re…

I agree that Slack chat is pretty bad for "technical" (or other detailed) discussions and in my experience the video chat is more likely to not work well.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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I'm quite confused because almost all conversation in my company's slack happens in threads. Maybe your impression of Slack was formed in a time when they didn't have threads?

I'm also confused because almost all of my company's Teams usage happens in unthreaded chats.

> I'm also confused because almost all of my company's Teams usage happens in unthreaded chats.

Yeah, having a feature doesn't mean people use the feature.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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When I visited the GitHub office in SF in 2017, it was nearly empty. Given how extravagant and beautiful it is, it struck me as a colossal waste of money even then.

They even had a full-scale replica of the Oval Office there https://twitter.com/harrymccracken/status/710956599477534720...

The dojo was cool, and the roof garden, plus the Western themed poker room and the Victorian drawing room with secret book cases that led to other rooms. It was the most extravegant place I ever visited, and as stated, it was almost empty.

Still I got to have a couple of free beers and walk off with branded t-shirts, hoodies and even a baby-grow.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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I really liked Shopify's remote model of not closing offices, but turning them into "ports" for teams in major cities to get together throughout the year for planning, team building, and retreats. You had an official place to get together, enjoy the perks of tech company offices, but with the intention of deep short bursts of interaction rather than focused work.

We have done the same at Zendesk. We've reduced our office footprint but have kept our hubs open with large enough offices open for the occasional large on-site and for easier team collaborations, as well as space for anyone that prefers to work in an office environment. I like the model, but I question long term economic viability of owning that much office space with mostly low utilization and only occasional spike…

Could rent it as co-working space on the rest of the days

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

#228

I really liked Shopify's remote model of not closing offices, but turning them into "ports" for teams in major cities to get together throughout the year for planning, team building, and retreats. You had an official place to get together, enjoy the perks of tech company offices, but with the intention of deep short bursts of interaction rather than focused work.

We have done the same at Zendesk. We've reduced our office footprint but have kept our hubs open with large enough offices open for the occasional large on-site and for easier team collaborations, as well as space for anyone that prefers to work in an office environment. I like the model, but I question long term economic viability of owning that much office space with mostly low utilization and only occasional spike…

I'd be interested what the financial analysis looks like leasing or owning hubs vs a cadence of offsites annually remote first orgs usually hold, considering meeting space + hoteling for staff during the meet. I'll chip in for this analysis and blog post!

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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GitHub has had so many outages in the last year. I can't imagine this is going to get better if they are going to lay off 10% of people. So many companies developer productivity relies on GitHub being up. I hope the remaining the folks who were not impacted can make large strides in increasing reliability of GitHub.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Nah. These are all dumb companies which people shouldn't have joined in the first place. You won't find companies like Valve doing this. Join a good company people, instead of dumb, boring ones run by another run of the mill CEO.

Can you elaborate on Valve? Why would Valve not do this? What makes it different?

Not that I agree with the above comment, but Valve is a private company. Hence, they would not be beholden to shareholder pressures. Perhaps the argument the posted intended was to never join a pubic company?
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