I really liked Shopify's remote model of not closing offices, but turning them into "ports" for teams in major cities to get together throughout the year for planning, team building, and retreats. You had an official place to get together, enjoy the perks of tech company offices, but with the intention of deep short bursts of interaction rather than focused work.
GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
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> I much prefer thread-based chat than message based chat. Teams forces people to use top message as a topic, then respond to messages under that topic. Slack message is just a message. Slack has threads: https://slack.com/help/articles/115000769927-Use-threads-to-...
I tried Zulip with the rust community and it completely ruined slacks “threads” for me. Its the equivalent between a pot noodle and a steak dinner. Zulip has a lot of other issues though, the app and on-boarding… but I really struggle to enjoy slack now. teams, however, is a total dumpster fire for serious communication outside of video meetings and some minor ad-hoc 1:1 interactions.
Crashing constantly and being a resource hog killed Slack for me.
That and DMs being visible to whoever pays.
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>i) Effective immediately, we will be moving laptop refreshes from three years to four years. ii) We will be moving to Microsoft Teams for the sole purpose of video conferencing, saving significant cost and simplifying cross-company and customer conversations Layoffs and having to use teams? Talk about a morale hit
I've never used Teams. Why does everybody hate it?
VSCode is often stated as the best-performing Electron software, Teams is at the opposite end.
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365? Also can’t tell if you’re serious or joking.
The joke is that MS brands its online services as "365", but they have enough outages for people to say things along the lines of "more like Microsoft 360, amiright?"
Huh, when I saw it first I read it more as: "360 is a full turn, so Slack360 just means same thing as Slack"
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
#205The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.
this is terrifying. for all the grief people give Slack, I've used both and I would seriously consider leaving a company that expected me to use Teams long term.
I have the complete opposite reaction; I don't like Slack now that I've used Teams and I had used Slack since the very early days. The only thing I hate about it is how it handles file sharing, to the point it will change file names of images and converts them to png files, which sort of defeats the purpose.
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
#206I am absolutely certain this is to suppress wages and employee rights. It is a coordinated effort across the industry and should be immediately investigated.
The office closings or the layoffs?
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
#207The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.
oh have fun, I have to use it at work and it's a lot of trouble all the time no matter which platform you ran it on.
One tip: Avoid the Linux version and use the chrome browser version instead. Wrt. most aspects the Linux version is the browser version but less updated and more buggy (no idea why tho, it's an electron app, it could be automatically always up to date/auto release a update every day/week).
Still even then there are funny bugs like we pretty much every week someone who has problem with a random teams bug, not specific or more often on any version/OS.
Like the chat icon randomly missing or screen sharing/video hanging for one person until they leave and re-enter the call.
And thats with the most minimal usage of Teams only for video calls, i.e. not chat and no fancy setting.
Oh and the Office365/Teams SSO is so inconsistent that it looks like a MITM attack from time to time, well except that a MITM attack probably would work more friction-less.
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
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What evidence do you have if you're absolutely certain?
Hence the need for an investigation. I don't think there is collusion, but I wouldn't be surprised. My conspiracy (let me put the tinfoil hat on) is that corporates and mega rich people wanted the recession badly because they can benefit from it. But it didn't happen so they're doing the layoffs and increasing prices to manufacture the recession despite their all-time high profits.
Genuine question. How would the mega rich benefit more from the recession than from a stable or high growth environment?
Seems easier to capture a bigger piece of the pie when the pie is growing for everybody no and nobody complains?
Not to mention the social and political unrest which might be triggered by a recession. Recent and old history has shown times and times again that it is when people go hungry or desperate that they challenge the established social order.
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
#210wild how so many companies are laying off 7-15% of their workforce in such quick succession
I assumed that once a critical mass of other companies in this industry make these moves, investors expect this kind of cut from all of them. They'll presumably invest elsewhere if your company doesn't make this cut.