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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by napsec »

bink wrote: post #129
wojcikstefan wrote: post #22

My heart goes out to the laid off employees, though I think they'll be able to find solid jobs (or start their own companies) when they're ready. What I'm more surprised by is: 1. GitHub operating so independently from Microsoft at large that they have their own layoffs (not included in the 10k people that Microsoft announced they'll be parting ways with). 2. GitHub operating SO INDEPENDENTLY that they can decide to…

Is this GitHub acting independently or is it Microsoft informing them that they needed to lose 10% but they could do it on their own time frame?

Looking at the CEO's statement it seems the final layoffs aren't even finalized yet.

> Unfortunately, this will include changes that will result in a reduction of GitHub’s workforce by up to 10% through the end of FY23. A number of Hubbers will receive notifications today, others will follow as we are re-aligning the business through the end of FY23.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by Bilal_io »

bink wrote: post #129
wojcikstefan wrote: post #22

My heart goes out to the laid off employees, though I think they'll be able to find solid jobs (or start their own companies) when they're ready. What I'm more surprised by is: 1. GitHub operating so independently from Microsoft at large that they have their own layoffs (not included in the 10k people that Microsoft announced they'll be parting ways with). 2. GitHub operating SO INDEPENDENTLY that they can decide to…

Is this GitHub acting independently or is it Microsoft informing them that they needed to lose 10% but they could do it on their own time frame?

The fact they're closing all offices and switching to fully-remote suggests it was Github's decision. Microsoft doesn't seem pro WFH

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by throwanem »

mardifoufs wrote: post #25
jiocrag wrote: post #7

Fortune now confirming: https://fortune.com/2023/02/09/github-is-laying-off-10-of-st...

>i) Effective immediately, we will be moving laptop refreshes from three years to four years. ii) We will be moving to Microsoft Teams for the sole purpose of video conferencing, saving significant cost and simplifying cross-company and customer conversations Layoffs and having to use teams? Talk about a morale hit

Not half so much as leaving open the question of who gets cut through the balance of H1.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by aliqot »

agilob wrote: post #148
roboben wrote: post #27

The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I choose Teams over Slack any day. I much prefer thread-based chat than message based chat. Teams forces people to use top message as a topic, then respond to messages under that topic. Slack message is just a message. You want to search something on Teams, you get full threads, chat is part of documentation. You want to find something on Slack, you need to click on date of the re…

teams search is ass.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by throwaway2214 »

mathverse wrote: post #30

I am absolutely certain this is to suppress wages and employee rights. It is a coordinated effort across the industry and should be immediately investigated.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by kqr »

ledauphin wrote: post #62
roboben wrote: post #27

The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.

this is terrifying. for all the grief people give Slack, I've used both and I would seriously consider leaving a company that expected me to use Teams long term.

I agree. I went on parental leave a couple of months ago but had I not I would have started using something other than Teams with my colleagues with no regard to what the official platform is.

I don't get why upper management thinks they have anything to do with how I communicate with my colleagues. I can only assume they would want us to choose a platform that allows us to work effectively.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by ahepp »

boomskats wrote: post #57
patrakov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what's wrong with Teams? It works well enough for me in Firefox on Linux. But OK, I only joined customer-initiated meetings, and was never presenting, only watching and talking, so maybe never used some important but non-working feature.

It is grossly inadequate when it comes to searching for and retrieving historical text conversations. For software developers, who depend on being able to search for a decision or mention or piece of code from a few weeks ago, it's downright unusable. Especially if they're used to Slack.

It blows my mind the ways MS Teams finds new and creative ways to mangle and destroy my chat history.

Just about the most important thing a business chat app could do, right?

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by barbazoo »

agilob wrote: post #148
roboben wrote: post #27

The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I choose Teams over Slack any day. I much prefer thread-based chat than message based chat. Teams forces people to use top message as a topic, then respond to messages under that topic. Slack message is just a message. You want to search something on Teams, you get full threads, chat is part of documentation. You want to find something on Slack, you need to click on date of the re…

> I much prefer thread-based chat than message based chat. Teams forces people to use top message as a topic, then respond to messages under that topic. Slack message is just a message.

Slack has threads: https://slack.com/help/articles/115000769927-Use-threads-to-...

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by willio58 »

holman wrote: post #96
willio58 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I don't think github was remote-first when it started.

Definitely was- we didn’t have an office for the first few years. Picked up the first office in 2010, and it was a big component of work life since then (even though the numbers were primarily ⅔ remote throughout).

Oh interesting! Thanks for clarifying. I knew there was an office like a decade ago but I guess I forgot how old Github is!

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by matwood »

brmgb wrote: post #125
gaoshan wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We use Teams long term and would give quite a bit to be able to use Slack. At least it's a great tool to focus our negative energies on, lol.

Call me when Slack allows collaborative editing of powerpoint presentations and excel spreadsheets. I think there is little overlap between the part of the companies which benefit from Teams and the part that wants to use Slack.

> collaborative editing of powerpoint presentations and excel spreadsheets

Hahaha...if you want collaborative editing of anything, use GSuite. The MS tool suite is a joke for collaboration.

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