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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by flappyeagle »

iliekcomputers wrote: post #44
roboben wrote: post #27

The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.

How is this the worst part lmao?

If I were forced to use teams I would quit. At least if you're laid off you get serverance

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by corndoge »

mardifoufs wrote: post #25
jiocrag wrote: post #7

Fortune now confirming: https://fortune.com/2023/02/09/github-is-laying-off-10-of-st...

>i) Effective immediately, we will be moving laptop refreshes from three years to four years. ii) We will be moving to Microsoft Teams for the sole purpose of video conferencing, saving significant cost and simplifying cross-company and customer conversations Layoffs and having to use teams? Talk about a morale hit

Teams for video, not so bad. If they were replacing Slack with Teams, that would be horrible.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by version_five »

patrakov wrote: post #35
mardifoufs wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>i) Effective immediately, we will be moving laptop refreshes from three years to four years. ii) We will be moving to Microsoft Teams for the sole purpose of video conferencing, saving significant cost and simplifying cross-company and customer conversations Layoffs and having to use teams? Talk about a morale hit

But what's wrong with Teams? It works well enough for me in Firefox on Linux. But OK, I only joined customer-initiated meetings, and was never presenting, only watching and talking, so maybe never used some important but non-working feature.

I have a small business and I use teams - as part of office365 it's a fully featured video chat plus messaging tool. It would be redundant to also have slack and zoom (not sure what all github is consolidating into teams)

But it also feels more cumbersome. With unlimited money I'd probably use slack and zoom instead. There are just so many little confusions, weird stuff where a team is has a sharepoint but it's not exactly a sharepoint, and it's never obvious where stuff is, and it defaults to opening office documents in some crippled teams-specific reader instead of their usual application. I know there's logic underneath it all, it just feels more clunky and enterprisy then the relatively seamless experience of other software.

(Edit having just seen the parallel post to mine: the default email notifications are obscene. Getting an email because I didn't look at a message after one hour is super annoying, and is borderline "bullying" in a corporate environment. It's possible to turn it off, but the defaults suck)

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by boomskats »

patrakov wrote: post #35
mardifoufs wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>i) Effective immediately, we will be moving laptop refreshes from three years to four years. ii) We will be moving to Microsoft Teams for the sole purpose of video conferencing, saving significant cost and simplifying cross-company and customer conversations Layoffs and having to use teams? Talk about a morale hit

But what's wrong with Teams? It works well enough for me in Firefox on Linux. But OK, I only joined customer-initiated meetings, and was never presenting, only watching and talking, so maybe never used some important but non-working feature.

It is grossly inadequate when it comes to searching for and retrieving historical text conversations. For software developers, who depend on being able to search for a decision or mention or piece of code from a few weeks ago, it's downright unusable. Especially if they're used to Slack.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by yamtaddle »

lampshades wrote: post #5

This really is the techpocalypse, huh? I’m young (35) but I’ve never seen layoffs so continuous. I wonder how far into the year this will go and if we’ll ever come back. Maybe companies truly will start offshoring.

This is following some insane hiring numbers the last three or so years, to a degree that I don't think was present in the run-up to the last couple times (some, yes, but not this much).

There also hasn't been a large wave of companies failing outright.

This one doesn't seem anywhere near as dire, despite the large numbers flying around (at least, not yet)

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Post by Ekaros »

fullshark wrote: post #45
mathverse wrote: post #30

I am absolutely certain this is to suppress wages and employee rights. It is a coordinated effort across the industry and should be immediately investigated.

Was the pandemic hiring spree coordinated also? Just copycat behavior the whole way through imo.

In the end it is all about what stock markets expect and want. Before they wanted hiring, now they want layoffs. There is really no collusion.

In general I think the true leadership of many of these companies is overstated. Layoffs are way to appear to save money so they are doing just that. And the pandemic seem to have been growth in remote products, so they had to grow for that. Even if most of the new workforce might not have been needed.

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