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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by consumer451 »

brookst wrote: post #286
consumer451 wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just opened Edge, went to Bing.com, and there is a wait list option where it claims you can: > Access the new Bing even faster > Get ahead in the line when you complete the following > Step number one - Set Microsoft defaults on your PC > Step number two - Scan the QR code to install the Microsoft Bing App https://www.bing.com/new/fastaccess?form=MY0291&OCID=MY0291

I think that’s a dark pattern. They are saying those things will make it faster to access Bing, because it’s your default search engine, not that it gets you priority access to the chat interface.

Well, who knows if it's true, but they do also say "Get ahead in the line when you complete the following" That is a bit more direct.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by yellow_postit »

Fatnino wrote: post #280
partiallypro wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.

Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.

I find the native vertical taskbar and tab snoozing to be the key features though the endless upsells keep trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory/conversion.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by poutine »

basch wrote: post #210
mustacheemperor wrote: post #37

The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat. I think this tech is going to be transformative for ev…

>of course Edge is Chrome under the hood Embrace, Extend. That's the beauty of open source, right? If development and innovation slows, somebody can fork.

Left out the last E there...

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by veb »

dang wrote: post #276

Are people here actually trying this out or is it vaporware as of yet? I ask because this seems ambiguous: The new Bing is live today “for desktop limited preview,” but it appears users are only able to “ask” one of a number of preset queries and receive the same results each time. There is also a waitlist to sign up for full access in the future. If it's just an announcement of an announcement*, we should downweight…

Get this, if you use Edge, with bing as search by default and join the waitlist, then another button appears "get access faster" or something, which then takes you to a page to make sure you've defaulted everything to Microsoft, and you've scanned a QR code to download a Bing mobile app.

I can't be bothered _all_ of that. Mainly the addition of a new mobile app.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by 314 »

osigurdson wrote: post #248
nicbou wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google made a strategic mistake by being utter crap for the last few years.

I still think google search is pretty good. I try to use DDG but I almost always end up using g! in the query to return the google results. My understanding is DDG uses Bing (could be wrong). I don't think there is a better traditional search engine than google however.

It's been more obvious that they are losing against SEO in the past few years. When searching for programming results it is rare for an authoritative source to be be above w3schools or geeksomethinggeeks. Even with a specific query for something that is not a beginner tutorial you have to wade through that shit to even get to stackoverflow answers.

Either google engineers have really started to dig w3schools or they don't eat their own dogfood any more.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by basch »

elektor wrote: post #288
dang wrote: post #276

Are people here actually trying this out or is it vaporware as of yet? I ask because this seems ambiguous: The new Bing is live today “for desktop limited preview,” but it appears users are only able to “ask” one of a number of preset queries and receive the same results each time. There is also a waitlist to sign up for full access in the future. If it's just an announcement of an announcement*, we should downweight…

I was able to get on by downloading the Canary version of Edge, which then prompted me to try the "new Bing".

It doesn't appear real. It looks like the new interface but dumps the query into old bing. You only have access to the couple prerendered conversations.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by gtirloni »

curiousllama wrote: post #205
mustacheemperor wrote: post #37

The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat. I think this tech is going to be transformative for ev…

> I wish I could just explain to ChatGPT what I need copied and pasted from one document to another or what needs to be filled out Is this something in the same problem space as ChatGPT? I'm not sure an LLM would be well suited for that, but could be wrong.

People in tech keep thinking ChatGPT is sentient or something.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by [deleted] »

zzzeek wrote: post #324
epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

they'd have to get ChatGPT to stop spewing up made up bullshit and fake academic citations first, which I think is a bit of a bigger problem than many seem to be considering. the outcome will still be hilarious though, so it's win win for the onlookers I guess edit: all the responses here who think the garbage is "just fine, at least it's not SEO" are similarly hilarious. as though SEO would not be polluting the AI a…

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by thrwawy74 »

revskill wrote: post #292
MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best experience I've had so far is sort of asking for what I should be searching for. For example, starting a project in a new and unfamiliar domain. I tried searching for what I wanted and kept getting drowned in similar but unrelated responses. I explained what my problem was to ChatGPT and asked what the industry names and terms were. Using the response, my searches were instantly relevant.

It's even more helpful to configure webpack config.

I know this response is sincere and for that I cannot stop laughing. Thank you for the tip, as another webpack user.
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