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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by ddp26 »

epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Metaculus estimates [1] that Bing's marketshare will rise from 3.03% on Jan 15 to 4.07% by Dec 31, 2023, and it's trending up slightly as Microsoft's plans become more concrete.

[1] https://www.metaculus.com/questions/14409/bing-search-market...

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Post by booleandilemma »

dwaltrip wrote: post #14

Is this live? When will it be available?

I love how OpenAI sucker punched these big incumbents and now they're playing catch up with promises and in Google's case, pretty much saying "oh we have something like this internally, you just haven't seen it yet!".

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epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

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Post by finikytou »

partiallypro wrote: post #53
legrande wrote: post #51

Tangential, but Google provides many answers to various questions in an intuitive way above the fold and without having to click on various articles / URLs. This is great, but also drives traffic away from websites, keeping everything on Google.com! Can't wait to see how Google implements its 'Bard'[0] system alongside search. [0] https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-upda...

> Google provides many answers to various questions in an intuitive way above the fold and without having to click on various articles Bing does this as well, that isn't new to either platform. It's useful but also is wrong a lot. (ChatGPT and Bard [terrible name] will also get a lot wrong.)

yeah and chatgpt will be wrong a lot. or better will give a onesided view of the results.

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Post by labrador »

lb4r wrote: post #152
Klonoar wrote: post #133

How does Bing, at whatever point, overcome the odd issue of: "google it" is a verb in pretty much every culture I've traveled through. Bing isn't even in the conversation. Changing the tech doesn't mean much on this one, but I'm curious what others think here.

People will use the phrase "Bing It" as a joke, but due to their increased use of Bing, they will say it so often that it soon won't be a joke.

I thought it came from Groundhog Day

Murray's character: Ned Ryerson?

Ned: Bing!

https://youtu.be/7JEryd3Y_G8?t=45

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Post by brookst »

consumer451 wrote: post #258
dwaltrip wrote: post #14

Is this live? When will it be available?

I just opened Edge, went to Bing.com, and there is a wait list option where it claims you can: > Access the new Bing even faster > Get ahead in the line when you complete the following > Step number one - Set Microsoft defaults on your PC > Step number two - Scan the QR code to install the Microsoft Bing App https://www.bing.com/new/fastaccess?form=MY0291&OCID=MY0291

I think that’s a dark pattern. They are saying those things will make it faster to access Bing, because it’s your default search engine, not that it gets you priority access to the chat interface.

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Post by elektor »

dang wrote: post #276

Are people here actually trying this out or is it vaporware as of yet? I ask because this seems ambiguous: The new Bing is live today “for desktop limited preview,” but it appears users are only able to “ask” one of a number of preset queries and receive the same results each time. There is also a waitlist to sign up for full access in the future. If it's just an announcement of an announcement*, we should downweight…

I was able to get on by downloading the Canary version of Edge, which then prompted me to try the "new Bing".

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Post by davesque »

epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Yep. If Microsoft somehow overtakes Google from the back with Bing and ChatGPT, it'll be the tech coup of the century. And it's so fascinating how Google's position as an AI think tank put them at a tremendous disadvantage. They didn't cut a deal with OpenAI because why should they? After all, they originated much of the research that led to GPT3. But then they didn't really do anything with it at all because they didn't have to. They were still printing money so effectively with their tried and true search product. They really are a victim of their own success. Frankly, that's how competition is supposed to work. I'm definitely getting a sense of schadenfreude watching all this.

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Post by basch »

PenguinCoder wrote: post #243
basch wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an end to keyword search. Search now has state. I can search something, and then manipulate the results. Filter the results. I dont have to start over with a new query, or mess with quotes and -signs, which has been utterly terrible ever since google started taking things like that as suggestions. Or when I search for 4-5 words, and it instantly chooses to leave out the most important of the 5 terms so it can re…

I absolutely hate this, and it turns the search useless to me. When searching with "direct quotes" on Google, it has ignored my exact term in quotes and shown me results WITHOUT THAT KEYWORD. Useless.

It is utter baffling how often I will search a couple terms and the top 5 results will say missing x and make me click to bring back my most important term. Obviously the term that is most limiting my search result volume is a candidate for either causing interference, or BEING the most important term. The frequency with which google chooses to disregard that word instead of focusing on it is just painful. Why theyve chosen to optimize for returning the MOST results is just misguided. I do not need or care for 10k results. Give me 90 that are actually useful.
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