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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by technion »

Fatnino wrote: post #280
partiallypro wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.

Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.

Most of our business customers would be using IE if Ms didn't kill it. We do however have the enterprise site list in edge, where we can list all the key urls to have edge open in embedded IE. Which is a killer feature. It's the only way to run many healthcare app for example.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by Valgrim »

Fatnino wrote: post #280
partiallypro wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.

Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.

On Android, Edge has a an integrated text-to-speech engine which is vastly superior to Google's in my opinion, with a wide variety of natural sounding voices in lot of languages.

I still prefer Firefox because of the adblocking capabilities, but anytime I want to listen to an article I use Edge.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by loudmax »

basch wrote: post #210
mustacheemperor wrote: post #37

The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat. I think this tech is going to be transformative for ev…

>of course Edge is Chrome under the hood Embrace, Extend. That's the beauty of open source, right? If development and innovation slows, somebody can fork.

> Embrace, Extend.

Wonder what comes next from Microsoft after Embrace and Extend ...

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by zzzeek »

epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

they'd have to get ChatGPT to stop spewing up made up bullshit and fake academic citations first, which I think is a bit of a bigger problem than many seem to be considering. the outcome will still be hilarious though, so it's win win for the onlookers I guess

edit: all the responses here who think the garbage is "just fine, at least it's not SEO" are similarly hilarious. as though SEO would not be polluting the AI as well

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by rvz »

heleninboodler wrote: post #198
rvz wrote: post #43

If you haven’t realised yet, Microsoft Bing with ChatGPT is the last stage of the EEE phase ‘Extinguish’ after embracing and extending OpenAI, that will drive and undercut other competing services like Jasper.ai to zero and the best AI tools for free or close to free. It will significantly affect smaller so-called AI companies like Jasper.ai than Google. But this announcement is unsurprising and as expected. [0] I wi…

So your thinking is that they had an idea to extinguish $10 billion by giving it to a company and then destroying them?

You might want to read my comment again, since it appears you haven’t.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by [deleted] »

brookst wrote: post #286
consumer451 wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just opened Edge, went to Bing.com, and there is a wait list option where it claims you can: > Access the new Bing even faster > Get ahead in the line when you complete the following > Step number one - Set Microsoft defaults on your PC > Step number two - Scan the QR code to install the Microsoft Bing App https://www.bing.com/new/fastaccess?form=MY0291&OCID=MY0291

I think that’s a dark pattern. They are saying those things will make it faster to access Bing, because it’s your default search engine, not that it gets you priority access to the chat interface.

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by omnicognate »

basch wrote: post #226
Waterluvian wrote: post #167

This feels like a great opportunity to give it a better name than Bing and quietly retire it.

Edge Surfer. Bring back the sense of expedition and wonder that came from Explorer, Safari, Navigator, and the old language of the www: cyber, surf, crawl/web. Although I think in the long run, the product category being under the Copilot bucket will work well. Instead of Cortana or Clippy, maybe an old Biplane.

Ah yes, the new googling: edging.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by seydor »

jimrandomh wrote: post #5

This is undeniably cool and impressive, but, I think proceeding down this research path, at this pace, is quite irresponsible. The primary effect of OpenAI's work has been to set off an arms race, and the effect of that is that humanity no longer has the ability to make decisions about how fast and how far to go with AGI development. Obviously this isn't a system that's going to recursively self-improve and wipe out…

I think it's time to end the concept of AGI. Language models are the closest we have to Useful AI that people want. Intelligence is an undefined hazy concept , but usefulness is not

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by zwieback »

Fatnino wrote: post #280
partiallypro wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.

Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.

I actually switch from Chrome to Edge whenever I can. Only drawback is I have to set Google search engine and maybe soon I won't do that! I can't really say why I like Edge better but it feels a little lighter weight in terms of memory, etc.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by seydor »

dwohnitmok wrote: post #71
jimrandomh wrote: post #5

This is undeniably cool and impressive, but, I think proceeding down this research path, at this pace, is quite irresponsible. The primary effect of OpenAI's work has been to set off an arms race, and the effect of that is that humanity no longer has the ability to make decisions about how fast and how far to go with AGI development. Obviously this isn't a system that's going to recursively self-improve and wipe out…

This is why the technology community should be more generous and understanding when we hear Demis Hassabis and others talk about how future AI development may need to be more closed. There's some discussion to be had for whether that's net negative, but we need to understand that if open development only exacerbates an AI arms race, that's potentially very bad.

That's like saying that open debate only exacerbates democracy.
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