This feels like a great opportunity to give it a better name than Bing and quietly retire it.
Yes, the AI needs a good name. How about Chandler?
Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
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#302This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?
Tech changes fast. Nokia, bb, aol, yahoo used to be top dog and now they are mostly gone.
Top dogs come and go, Microsoft stays.
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.
Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.
I only use it when I have to use a Chromium browser, which is extremely rare. And that's only because it's already installed on Windows. I'm a Firefox user without Chrome installed.
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#304How do people feel about sites from where this data is coming losing out on revenue? When Google started showing answers, I remember complaints regarding Google benefiting from the site's data while depriving the site of a visitor. ChatGPT takes it to the next level. Social media companies had run into issues for showing og tag content from news sites, where news sites complained of loss of revenue. In some jurisdict…
I use search to find websites. In my selfish point of view, I'm worried that it will become harder to find them with this sort of thing. Google search has already made it really hard, and that's without supercharging "AI".
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#305Why Google named ChatGPT competitor as “Apprentice Bard”?
Here's my take.
"Apprentice is Barred from this AI race" is the phrase.
"You (OpenAI) Apprentice are Barred from this AI race, because, well you are just an apprentice"
To counter Sun Microsystems' dominance in the Java market, IBM named its IDE as "Eclipse."( blocking Sun).
PS: To be clear, that is not my personal opinion of OpenAI, I believe OpenAI brought so much innovation to this LLM space.
Just sharing what came into my head, why Google picked that name.
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google could put out a peer product and win simply due to existing momentum in search. This is the likely outcome, but I don't see how it's anything but an utter disaster for Google. The only way for chatbots to monetize at the rate google is currently monetizing search is by the responses themselves being ads. Would people use such a product or would they reject in favor of a product that has simple banner ads? I…
If I were an advertiser, I would be keenly interested in how my client's products can be embedded into natural-sounding AI conversation. That is an extraordinary valuable innovation and Google can charge accordingly. Meanwhile, MS has a lot of catching up to do in the ad space.
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think MSFT has rolled this out too soon rather than getting it tested with huge test user base like their own employees similarly to what Google is doing?
No, I think to really get these battle tested it needs to be in everyone's hands. Microsoft is a limited selection of people, and the world is vast. Plus, internal people probably won't ask it as awful things or try as hard to break it - I doubt my coworkers would risk asking it super racist things for example. 4chan has no such restrictions, and over time what escapes or issues people do find can be mitigated.
>> internal people probably won't ask it as awful things or try as hard to break it - I doubt my coworkers would risk asking it super racist things for example.
>> 4chan has no such restrictions, and over time what escapes or issues people do find can be mitigated.
Hopefully better than previous attempts to put AI on the Internet:
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#308Most interesting tidbits: 1 - Sam Altman onstage all but confirmed the underlying LLM model as GPT-4 as he kept saying "next gen" without providing a name 2 - Microsoft is all-in by making this front-and-center of Bing, as well as deep integration into Edge browser I'm most curious about how Microsoft is planning to pay for the infrastructure cost of serving the traffic.
I guess GPT-4 needs its own launch event. :)
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#309I always wondered if search engines like bing and google were widely used by really young people nowadays or if their entry to the internet was tiktok and maybe reddit or youtube? I suspect the old school portal/engines are less and less relevant to younger generations and somehow the medium of a general search will disappear as the world close down on globalization. some countries will def forbid chatgpt and obviously search just like it is today will be biased. the AI moderators will be in power to build a world that reflects its worst. just like they did on google or tiktok
Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
#310This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?
Yep. If Microsoft somehow overtakes Google from the back with Bing and ChatGPT, it'll be the tech coup of the century. And it's so fascinating how Google's position as an AI think tank put them at a tremendous disadvantage. They didn't cut a deal with OpenAI because why should they? After all, they originated much of the research that led to GPT3. But then they didn't really do anything with it at all because they di…
It makes one wonder if this is another kodak moment
https://www.google.com/search?q=kodak+developed+the+digital+...