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As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by nprateem »

Animats wrote: post #529
belter wrote: post #414

- 40,000 to 70,000 Amateur Astronomers, scan the skies every night, with precision instruments capable to distinguish Jupiter atmosphere bands. Hardly any noticed these anomalous phenomena... - About 500 observatories in the world, most of which are located in the Northern hemisphere study nightly stars, galaxies, planets and other celestial objects. Hardly any noticed these anomalous phenomena... - By some rough est…

High-performance hobbyist drones are approaching UFO levels of performance.[1] Top speed of that one is well over 400MPH. One of those will cost you maybe US$8000. The triangular craft seen buzzing US Navy ships off the coast of California look a lot like those. There's a huge range of remote controlled aerial vehicles you can buy now. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPGDAZyQ44k

Riiight, so the US military is unaware of the capabilities of drones, and also can't accurately say that UFOs appear to hit 40,000 MPH

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Post by alien2b »

krapp wrote: post #269
alien2b wrote: post #240

UFOs are only spotted in USA. Either Americans are liars or the rest of the world is blind

I shouldn't reply to an obvious troll account, but just because I've seen this claim come up several times now, and because it gives me an excuse to drop some high strangeness - UFOs have been spotted all over the world. It isn't just a US thing, although one could always argue the effect of the influence of US cultural hegemony on sightings elsewhere. Some entertainingly noteworthy examples: Japan Airlines Cargo Fli…

Troll account? damm it so many snow flakes who cant have others voice out their opinions/observations.

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Post by LatteLazy »

reso wrote: post #596

Mick West's breakdowns of the Pentagon UAP videos was the nail in the coffin of this era of UFO hype for me. https://youtu.be/Le7Fqbsrrm8?t=665 These were supposed to be the smoking gun evidence. UFO believers inside the DoD and as high up as US Senators fought for years to get them declassified. As soon as they were public, they were all quickly identified as sensor glare, bokeh, or mis-understood perspective. More…

Thanks, that's an excellent link.

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Post by godelski »

TrapLord_Rhodo wrote: post #502
driggs wrote: post #214

> Objects demonstrating extreme capabilities routinely fly over our military facilities and training ranges. We don’t know what they are, and we are unable to mitigate their presence. Occams Razor suggests that if these objects appear almost exclusively over US military facilities and US military training ranges, they're most likely operated by the US military. (Sorry to the Navy pilot whose security clearance is too…

Yeah - also, if something can travel light years and have no major signs of atmospheric entry and exit then they have definitely mastered cloaking. The f35B is pretty close already. There's way to many holes in the 'Alien Theory', to many technological absurdities. If these's truly are aliens, then they are the steam punk kind with awkward technological leaps. The easy explaination is they are advanced military craft…

> if something can travel light years

And for... decades. Even many times the speed of light requires the ship to travel decades (from the perspective of Earth or their home planet).

I definitely buy the US stealth tech. You dogfood your stealth technology with your own systems and own people. Unlikely to fool the enemy if you can't fool yourself. But I do think there are also likely foreign surveillance systems. These could be drones or even balloons (probably smaller than the one that made the news). Combine these two things (along with glitches, optical illusions, and just random shit falling from the sky) and it isn't surprising you see these events.

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Post by nprateem »

nl wrote: post #467
nprateem wrote: post #350

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If a foreign adversary had invented such tech, the West would have sanctioned the country into the ground to stop them producing more. So it's either the US but they claim it's not them, and they keep doing more investigations, or they're not human. I don't buy the faulty sensor argument given multiple corroborating sources.

It's impossible to say with such certainty what the reaction would be. What if the country that developed it was a Western-aligned country like Japan, Israel or France? What if the country was a country like Russia or Cuba, and has had this tech since before the fall of the Berlin wall and the US intelligence community wanted to keep it secret? What if the country was a country that is under Western sanctions for oth…

I don't think so. These things can disable nukes according to testimony given to Congress. They're the basis of US supremacy.

In the above situations, it'd be imperative for the US to acquire the tech through war, economic pressure or espionage, or if that wasn't possible try to prevent them manufacturing more. If it was a friendly country they'd have to share the tech.

This tech is basically like developing 5th gen fighters in the Stone age. There's simply no way the world's largest superpower wouldn't acquire the tech by any means necessary, since it threatens its very existence

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Post by simonh »

runjake wrote: post #8

I worked on stealth aircraft that would occasionally cause civilian UFO reports. It was common for the reports to mention that these UFOs maneuvered unlike any man-made aircraft, which was always a good chuckle because they were usually just flying straight or banking normally. However when seasoned military pilots like Fravor speak on the matter, I listen. When a bunch of them speak about the same incident, I take t…

The now debunked sensor recordings were also reported by seasoned military pilots. You can even hear them discussing their observations on some of the recordings. In one of them they are patently misreading the sensor data displayed in the video.

I’m sorry, but if that doesn’t thoroughly and permanently discredit this line of reasoning, I don’t know what will.

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Post by dilippkumar »

llamaLord wrote: post #48
dilippkumar wrote: post #25

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Aha! You’re the person I’ve been searching for. A person who has seen something that is incredible (literally) and has a hard time following up because of a complete absence of data/evidence to back up your claim. Going back to your experience, what tools do you wish we as a society had that would help us document your experience? Did you try to document your experience? What were the barriers you encountered? If you…

Can't tell if being sarcastic or not... But the vast majority of us carry an at least 12 megapixel camera in our pocket literally everywhere we go now...

> But the vast majority of us carry an at least 12 megapixel camera in our pocket literally everywhere we go now

Here’s an experiment for you to try out. The next time you see a regular airplane up in the sky, pull out your phone and click a picture of it.

You’ll discover a couple of things very quickly. First, most of us do not walk around looking up at the sky. Second, 35k feet up in the air is really really far - at a bit over 6 miles away (in the best case when it is directly overhead and is closest to you), things look tiny on your phone. If you try to magnify even 10x using a phone that’s able to, you’ll discover how impossibly hard it is to track a moving object with 10x magnification.

Once you do this experiment, you can reconsider how likely that a UFO will be photographed by a person with a smartphone.

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Post by godelski »

KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #306
flatiron wrote: post #256

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Or from foreign entities wondering what’s up with our military facilities.

The calculus would be very strange because adversaries run the risk of losing the mint if it's shot down.

What mint? A drone? A balloon? These are relatively common for surveillance devices and can be quite small and can self destruct. Even the US does this, just isn't as flashy.

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Post by BbzzbB »

natch wrote: post #384
LewisVerstappen wrote: post #284

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It was seen - by multiple fighter jet pilots (in different planes) - picked up by the fighter jet's radar - picked up by the USS Nimitz's radar. So yeah...

Fighter jet pilot is a self-avowed prankster and “class clown” (his words). One of the people who wrote the software for that radar system is his good buddy, best man at his wedding, and was on duty nearby on that day. It could all be a big prank. Some of the eyewitnesses saw what they saw on, wait for it, a radar screen. Well technically it was another technology not exactly radar but I forget the name. [edit: FLIR,…

One might think such an elaborate prankster would keep his benign pranks to himself when going on a podcast tour to protect appearances.

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Post by neom »

godelski wrote: post #619
lethologica wrote: post #613

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How can it be sensor glare when the pilots saw with their own eyes these objects?

Most of these weren't things pilots saw with their physical eyes. You need to pay attention to the accounts. There are some though, to be clear. But these cases aren't like the ones we're seeing videos of. They are often something that flew between the aircraft vertically. This could easily be a bird (lower altitudes) or even part of a weather balloon that is just in free fall (these are launched all the time and hav…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtMbBPzqHY scrub to 7 minutes in.
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