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As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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In grad school in astronomy, there was a fellow grad student who was extremely excited after a night's observations that he'd discovered something remarkable -- it was a long hoped for distant galaxy that appeared in his images that night, and had all the right spectral signatures because it appeared in different filters, different exposures, and you could see it there in the image files, raw. Turned out, it was nois…

Frankly, I think the reality is even less interesting than that. US military aviators are trained to be proficient systems operators, but typically (and, I want to stress, very reasonably) have little or no education in EM/EO theory, and don't always understand the assumptions that engineers baked into these systems to optimize them for their primary use cases (which, in the case of targeting pods, is identification…

> but for those of you out there who think that what you see on the scope is a perfect analog of the real world, boy do I have some bad news for you...

What about when the radar data, the pilot's own eyes, and the targeting pod data all complement each other? What about when the Navy has a patent for craft that can fly the way these 3 data sources described? What about when the "unidentified" craft is coming from San Clemente Island (a private Navy island near the training theater)? Why did the most compelling event occur during a Navy training mission where the purpose was to test new radar equipment?

I could dismiss any one, maybe even two of these, as a coincidence. But trying to write off all of these simultaneous events as errors and coincidences, that's harder to believe than the conspiracy theory. It seems obvious, that in at least one of these reports, it is an undisclosed Navy craft.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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There's a real problem with people being close-minded towards anything that seems fantastical. This includes scientists and other professionals who ought to know better. Obviously it's unscientific to jump to conclusions and assume that anything that doesn't make sense must be aliens or magic or whatever but at the same time, it's also unscientific to ignore physical observations just because they seem like something…

number of times in the last century weird stuff has been revealed to be aliens: 0 number of times in the last century weird stuff has been revealed to be classified projects: dozens, hundreds?

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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a lot of weird stuff is happening all around us all the time

maybe 20 yrs ago I was walking with 3 more friends down a poorly lit alley, it was already pitch dark night, when completely out of the sudden - it became bright as it would be mid-day, all 4 of us where just standing there completely awe struct trying to understand wtf is going on, I remember looking at the sky, it was blue the whole sky was blue with white clouds, perfect visibility, the whole thing lasted maybe 5 but not more than 10 seconds and then it just "switched off" to pitch dark night again, interesting was that there was no fade-in / fade-out the switch-on / off was instantaneous

a few hundred meters further down the road we met some people that we asked if they saw some flash or bright light or smth like that and they were like no, nothing like that, we checked all the media / news / weather reports - no indication of anything that could have cause this

i saw a lot of meteorites / exploding in the atmosphere but those create flashes that are very brief, this phenomenon took order of magnitude longer

even though a ton of statistically improbable things happened to me during my lifetime, this one weirds me out to this day, and yes i consider myself to be sceptic, with engineering / physics formal education (phd) working in science all my life

i believe weird stuff like this happens to a lot of people, they just don't like to talk about it because they are afraid of sounding "stupid" ... but if we want to seriously research such phenomena - we have to gather all the evidence there might be

one thing i am looking forward to is the network as a sensor 6G vision, mobile networks are omnipresent and now (2030+) they will be able to function as "omnipresent radars" thus in some not so distant future we should be able to sense our environment in a multitude of ways continuously, thus trying to figure out wtf just happened should become easier :D

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tic tac was seen by naked eye though: > During a routine training mission in 2004, Dietrich and her then-commanding officer had noticed an unusual "churning" of the ocean surface before seeing "a smooth, white oblong object resembling a large Tic Tac breath mint flying at high speed over the water."

It was seen - by multiple fighter jet pilots (in different planes) - picked up by the fighter jet's radar - picked up by the USS Nimitz's radar. So yeah...

Fighter jet pilot is a self-avowed prankster and “class clown” (his words). One of the people who wrote the software for that radar system is his good buddy, best man at his wedding, and was on duty nearby on that day.

It could all be a big prank.

Some of the eyewitnesses saw what they saw on, wait for it, a radar screen. Well technically it was another technology not exactly radar but I forget the name. [edit: FLIR, which may or may not be a type of radar… I know as much about this as I know about little green men.] But color me unconvinced.

And sure there are other embellishments to the story but we really don’t know what’s real here and what’s not.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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ITT:

Multiple fighter pilots (whose sole job is to understand aerial objects by eye and sensors), radar, camera and infrared have seen these.

“It’s a glitch, lens flare and/or the pilots are stupid, but me a programmer is an expert in this.”

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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post #380

There is a genuinely terrifying explanation that fits all of the data-points: That something about routine exposure to the physical effects of flying military jets effects a pilot's perceptual accuracy. This is also definitely something that would be on the hush rota; if your seasoned missile operator just reported overtaking Santa's sleigh at Mach something, it wouldn't inspire much confidence in either the new recr…

This doesn't do much for the data point of on-video capture of some such phenomena, though: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52457805

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have any NATO countries reported these?

The military budget of the rest of NATO combined is much smaller than that of the US. ... Why would aliens be interested?

They still build some stuff and if aliens have come all this way why not check out the whole planet?

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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In grad school in astronomy, there was a fellow grad student who was extremely excited after a night's observations that he'd discovered something remarkable -- it was a long hoped for distant galaxy that appeared in his images that night, and had all the right spectral signatures because it appeared in different filters, different exposures, and you could see it there in the image files, raw. Turned out, it was nois…

It's incredible that armchair experts can dismiss something as a glitch from corroborated observations from some of the best aerial operators of the most powerful and well funded military on earth. Yes, glitches exist, but don't yet account for all cases. One can read the congressional reports that say the same.

I thought the whole point of this article is that those reports are uninteresting because so much information is withheld.

I’m also curious to know if there are reports similar to these coming from civilian or commercial pilots. I mean, it doesn’t take a too gun pilot to observe a tic tac shaped flying object but it seems to me that it’s all coming from the us military who share similar technology.

There is one other group of UAP sightings I’m aware of and it’s from civilians and it seems to come almost strictly from civilians in North America.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was seen - by multiple fighter jet pilots (in different planes) - picked up by the fighter jet's radar - picked up by the USS Nimitz's radar. So yeah...

Fighter jet pilot is a self-avowed prankster and “class clown” (his words). One of the people who wrote the software for that radar system is his good buddy, best man at his wedding, and was on duty nearby on that day. It could all be a big prank. Some of the eyewitnesses saw what they saw on, wait for it, a radar screen. Well technically it was another technology not exactly radar but I forget the name. [edit: FLIR,…

Case dismissed, natch figured it out. Everyone go home and stop asking questions.
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