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The rebranding of "UFO" to "UAP" is a dead giveaway, just as it was for changing the "Department of War" to the "Department of Defense".
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Every time one of those fantastic items gets explained, it's always mundane and boring, and never dampens the enthusiasm for the next one. I recall one about B+W photographs of "wood elves" taken around 1910 or so by a couple girls. The girls insisted it was genuine. Photographic experts declared the photos were genuine and could not have been faked. When the girls were in their 80's, they finally confessed that the…
Quite a bizarre strawman [1] that doesn't prove your point at all. Here we have multiple professional pilots reporting similar events, with recorded evidence from the tracking systems on their fighter planes. And enough evidence that even Congress has authorised to look into it further. It probably is all some natural thing happening, but it's not some hoax by teenager girls in the 1920s. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/…
to be clear : multiple professionals from the same government, similar cultures and professional background, using similar equipment, tactics, sensor arrays, and vehicles, in a similar geographical region.
Maybe i'm jaded, but 'multiple professionals' means absolutely nothing to me if every one of those professionals is a cog in the same propaganda mill.
I'll be more likely to buy into any of these stories once we have agreeing reports from groups of people that aren't coordinated to play-nice with one another.
UFOs are only spotted in USA. Either Americans are liars or the rest of the world is blind
It's never in the middle of the day, ground level, bright sunlight with a DSLR.
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> This paper shows the tic tac video exhibited instantaneous acceleration to over 20,000 mph Would't it mean that the footage doesn't actually show real objects then? You see a Mona Lisa on the wall in your friends house, before you assume that your friend has the original or that Leonardo Da Vinci painted two of those and this is the other one you will need to go through many many other scenarios because you know a…
> This paper shows the tic tac video exhibited instantaneous acceleration to over 20,000 mph Would't it mean that the footage doesn't actually show real objects then? Maybe, but consider the context: even if the acceleration was more "reasonable", wouldn't you feel something's missing? I mean any indication of a propulsion system, like reaction gases or propellers. My point is: if we're watching something we have no…
Now you need to invent a second magic technology that explains the lack of plasma trails following the path of this supposedly hypersonic object.
There's a real problem with people being close-minded towards anything that seems fantastical. This includes scientists and other professionals who ought to know better. Obviously it's unscientific to jump to conclusions and assume that anything that doesn't make sense must be aliens or magic or whatever but at the same time, it's also unscientific to ignore physical observations just because they seem like something…
The close-minded approach is to accept someone’s fantastical claim because you want to, or just because the claim is being made, when the claim is contrary to mountains and centuries of evidence. The open-minded take incorporates all the possible evidence to reach the most likely conclusion. And the conclusion is never, so far, either aliens or magic. It’s just silly to conclude that an observation that has no immedi…
Magic/supernatural by definition is contrary to physical laws and scientific understanding.
But the existence of aliens would in no way contradict any physical laws or scientific consensus. It would be a shock, obviously, just like it was a shock when we discovered that other galaxies exist, or black holes, or that nuclear fission is possible.
If intelligent aliens do exist and are close enough to us to be detected (or to detect us), which is certainly possible and maybe even probable, then we’re likely going to find out about them someday. Is that what’s happening now with these UAP? It seems that we don’t know yet, but it’s as unscientific to throw out the aliens hypothesis a priori as to insist it’s definitely aliens and no other explanation is possible.
In grad school in astronomy, there was a fellow grad student who was extremely excited after a night's observations that he'd discovered something remarkable -- it was a long hoped for distant galaxy that appeared in his images that night, and had all the right spectral signatures because it appeared in different filters, different exposures, and you could see it there in the image files, raw. Turned out, it was nois…
It's worth mentioning also the infamous go fast and swivel videos have been explained. And both revealed that several pilots we mislead by the same simple phenomena. And it wasn't a pilot who explained it but engineers who actually knew how the sensors worked.
I really wish people would take a look at the extensive analysis some scientists have done to show the 3 navy videos of UAP are showing flight characteristics that defy our laws of physics. This guy on Twitter has done a fantastic job to show the GIMBAL object performed what we can only describe as a “vertical u-turn” https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1504855791060148224?s=... This paper shows the tic tac video e…
There's a real problem with people being close-minded towards anything that seems fantastical. This includes scientists and other professionals who ought to know better. Obviously it's unscientific to jump to conclusions and assume that anything that doesn't make sense must be aliens or magic or whatever but at the same time, it's also unscientific to ignore physical observations just because they seem like something…
The close-minded approach is to accept someone’s fantastical claim because you want to, or just because the claim is being made, when the claim is contrary to mountains and centuries of evidence. The open-minded take incorporates all the possible evidence to reach the most likely conclusion. And the conclusion is never, so far, either aliens or magic. It’s just silly to conclude that an observation that has no immedi…
Let videos of whatever weird phenomenona be released and studied. Add more sensors or whatever is needed to explain what pilots see. Maybe send a scientist or two up there to figure out what’s going on.
UFOs are only spotted in USA. Either Americans are liars or the rest of the world is blind
Some entertainingly noteworthy examples:
Japan Airlines Cargo Flight 1628 (1986)[0]
Warminster, England (1964)[1]
Tuscany (1954)[2]
Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk, England (1980)[3]
Varginha, Brazil (1966)[4]
Voronezh, Soviet Union (1989)[5]
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1...
[1]https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/638338/warminster-thing-...
[2]https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29342407
[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident
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There are plenty of explanations for these videos that don't involve alien species traveling multiple light years to troll American air force pilots, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGzJ9dx3n4o .
Honestly the "it's aliens" explanation is so unlikely that I'd put "Wakanda is real" above it in my probability tables.