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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by FpUser » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:16 PM UTC

nradov wrote: post #128

FpUser wrote: post #67

I saw one myself when I was at University. Was watching night sky, lying on a beach at Black Sea resort. Basically it looked a regular satellite crossing a night sky of which one can usually see more than enough. Suddenly the "satellite" has made an instant 90 degree turn and kept going before disappearing over the horizon.

You might have seen two satellites. The second one appeared to intersect the path of the first from your perspective just as the first one faded from view.

Total BS. What you described would've been very noticeable. Especially "fading" of visually slow moving satellite.

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Post by meindnoch » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:16 PM UTC

WalterBright wrote: post #207

All these UFO photographs, all of which are fuzzy smears. With the ubiquity of excellent cameras, why aren't there any in-focus, sharp photos of them? We all know the answer.

The Chinese balloon was as big as a 7-storey building, in broad daylight, drifting very slowly.

Where are the excellent high-resolution photos?

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Post by psychphysic » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:16 PM UTC

supernova87a wrote: post #147

In grad school in astronomy, there was a fellow grad student who was extremely excited after a night's observations that he'd discovered something remarkable -- it was a long hoped for distant galaxy that appeared in his images that night, and had all the right spectral signatures because it appeared in different filters, different exposures, and you could see it there in the image files, raw. Turned out, it was nois…

It's worth mentioning also the infamous go fast and swivel videos have been explained.

And both revealed that several pilots we mislead by the same simple phenomena. And it wasn't a pilot who explained it but engineers who actually knew how the sensors worked.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by driggs » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:16 PM UTC

> Objects demonstrating extreme capabilities routinely fly over our military facilities and training ranges. We don’t know what they are, and we are unable to mitigate their presence.

Occams Razor suggests that if these objects appear almost exclusively over US military facilities and US military training ranges, they're most likely operated by the US military.

(Sorry to the Navy pilot whose security clearance is too low to be in on the secret.)

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Post by astrange » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:16 PM UTC

stevenhuang wrote: post #53

robbiex88 wrote: post #32

If you haven't listened to it yet, highly recommend the Ryan Graves episode on the Joe Rogan Experience.

Or the one with Lex Fridman. https://youtu.be/qLDp-aYnR1Y

If the places to learn this info are JR and Lex Friedman, it can't possibly be true.

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Post by willis936 » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:16 PM UTC

namaria wrote: post #163

willis936 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wondering why a multi-million dollar aircraft doesn't have a $10k imaging system when I put a $300 imaging system on my $30k car. If I'm willing to spend 1% to understand equipment damage then why would this logic not follow for a billion dollar fleet of aircraft? Like-minded drivers have caught amazing videos of meteors. Planes could do the same for supposedly legitimate UAP sightings.

Well would you increase the budget of your production grade deliverables for maybe proving to internet forum visitors that your product sometimes is in the presence of weird phenomena?

I'm not sure about all of that, but I know a lot of people are paid to count a lot of beans. There are lots of beans saved from diagnostics, especially where insurance is involved.

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Post by scotty79 » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:18 PM UTC

likeabbas wrote: post #180

scotty79 wrote: post #154

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Yeah. But that's impossible. So there, on Earth, are just two kinds of intelligence. Human intelligence and military intelligence. Because there's no alien intelligence here.

Everything is impossible until it is done. We have been to space. We have theories that FTL travel may be possible (Alcubierre drives, wormholes). The JWST just showed us that galaxies formed as early as 300 million years after the Big Bang. Hell, we didn't know there were planets outside of our solar system until the 1990s. We still don't know what Dark Matter or Dark Energy are. We have far more left to explore and…

> Everything is impossible until it is done.

And some things just remain impossible. They laughed at Galileo but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

I think there's huge probabiliy that aliens really do exist. But they are nowhere close. And we don't have any resonable theories about FTL. They sound reasonable up to a point of "yeah, but you need negative mass to do that". So basically it's an artefact that equations produce when they are pushed to the domain they are no longer valid in.

Best scientific venture about alien life is SETI and JWST. Not some nonsense of pilots seeing things they believe to be violating the laws of physics. And some recordings of instruments that just show wrong data.

People like you mix science with science-fiction and that really does no good for either.

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Post by willis936 » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:19 PM UTC

likeabbas wrote: post #146

willis936 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Three videos is not a preponderance of data. The number of photos taken in the past day exceeds the number of photos taken in the past year exceeds the number of photos taken in the 20th century. We have cameras in space, we have cameras everywhere we have people, so then where is the expected increase in observations? UFO sightings have been relatively steady, with peaks and valleys as the zeitgeist ebbs and flows.…

Unfortunately most of this data is highly classified and not going to leak. We do have cameras everywhere, but I’m not sure how many civilian devices can capture a good video of something going Mach 15+. All I can say to you is to look into the last NDAA legislation. These former DoD officials have convinced congress members enough to include legislation to further study UAP and create a system for pilots to report t…

Much like any guiding principle in science, "it's never aliens" is a rule of thumb. Obviously no scientist rules out legitimate possibilities, but it's similar to math being riddled with singularities. It's a sign that more work is likely needed.

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Post by rossjudson » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:19 PM UTC

nradov wrote: post #100

edgyquant wrote: post #71

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Yes. Why is that unreasonable?

It's unreasonable because installing and maintaining aviation qualified cameras is expensive. You can't just strap a consumer action camera to the wing and expect the FAA to approve. Airlines have no incentive to pay for extra cameras.

Not to mention creating another source of liability for themselves. "And then the pilot did WHAT?"

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Post by WalterBright » Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 11:20 PM UTC

pmarreck wrote: post #198

smiley1437 wrote: post #172

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence (Sagan Standard)

Exactly how many eyewitness accounts, devoid of good physical evidence, constitute "Evidence" with a capital "E"? If this number is "infinity" for you, that is unreasonable.

None of them.

My dad did accident investigation for the Air Force for a time. One time there was a crash into the sea, amply witnessed by many on board a Navy ship, including pilots. They all said the wings came off the airplane before it hit the water. (The airplane had a reputation for wings coming off.) These people honestly believed that's what they saw.

Except for one Navy seaman, on his first trip on a boat. He said the wings were on when it hit the water.

So they pulled the airplane up from the bottom, and lo, the wings were on when it hit. One the seaman saw the truth, because he was not predisposed to attribute the crash to a known fault in the airplane.