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YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by Jolter »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #123
e1g wrote: post #85

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COVID absolutely warped kids’ brains in ways we will not understand for decades, but also kids seem to have a hardwired affinity for other kids. For example, I have a two year old who has never seen Youtube/Netflix/TV and has a revolving door of playmates. She loves “reading” books with us, and her non-negotiable toddler “preference” is always for books with photos of other kids. Not animals or cartoons or fun drawin…

Covid didn't do anything to children, the reaction to covid from governments and parents did.

Technically correct! The best kind of correct.

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Post by addandsubtract »

Barrin92 wrote: post #63

what was surprising to me when I first accidentally stumbled into kids youtube a few years ago by accident was how, for a lack of a better term, fucking weird it is. For example this video from the mentioned channel in the article: https://youtu.be/D1LDPmYoYm4 I don't know what makes this so uncanny, maybe it's the budget animation combined with the nursery rhyme but I can't imagine wanting to watch this as a kid. It…

I guess I'm getting old, when "budget animations" look better than Toy Story.

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Post by addandsubtract »

thrown_43 wrote: post #12
moomoo11 wrote: post #11

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Literally said the weekend. Perfect example of declining critical thinking and reading comprehension.

I can't fit a weekend in my car either.

You're talking to the wrong car salesman. Find one that will slap the roof of the car and tell you it can fit so many weekend hikes into it.

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Post by phillc73 »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #121
phillc73 wrote: post #69

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Yes. We live in Austria and it's just what kids do. In Australia, they learn to swim at a very young age, in Austria it's skiing. He's not the only one racing under-10s class! There's another comment here taking the piss (with the yachting comment), and I too used to have certain pre-conceived ideas about skiing. Sure, if you go to St. Anton and Kitzbuehel, there's a certain vibe. However, at my local slopes it's com…

Learning to swim young can be done anywhere though that has a public pool.

Yes, that's true and such pools are ubiquitous in Australia. The town I grew up in, 200km from the ocean, population 4,500, had a full Olympic size 50m pool. It was just one of the local amenities. We had school swimming carnivals where everyone was expected to swim in at least one 50m race.

I don't think the same access to pools is true in other more temperate climates, at least not from my experience living in Europe.

Skiing for kids in Austria isn't quite at the same level, depending on where you live perhaps, but my son is off to a school ski race event later this month, with thirteen of his classmates. It's an officially sanctioned school event.

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Post by passwordoops »

theshrike79 wrote: post #164
patja wrote: post #138

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Curious about the use of the word messenger. Do you mean Facebook's Messenger? Isn't that only for age 13 and over?

All apps are 13+, it's a law thing. If companies go under that, they face intense scrutiny. Epic lost a case because of that already ($200M+ fine & years of supervision), Rovio is in hot water too. Same issue with WhatsApp for example, but it's pretty much a requirement to have any social life after first grade over here. Also there is no way for anyone except a parent to report an underage WA user, so there are no r…

"Parent permissions" is how they get around that one for underage kids. It's either a notification through the parent portal or you login with the Google account on the kids tablet. Not sure of the mechanism on iOS, but I imagine it's similar.

Once you give permission, it's free reign

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Post by theshrike79 »

thih9 wrote: post #39
theshrike79 wrote: post #3

Nope, nope nope. My kid is 10 and still doesn't know a single Youtuber by name and doesn't really watch Youtube. We did try Youtube Kids at one point, but it was just 99% toy ads masquerading as authentic content. Netflix has a pretty good age limiter and well produced TV-shows. Disney+ has Bluey and a ton of other content. AppleTV+ has a few good ones too, but not as much as the two big ones. Paying the few coins fo…

> We did try Youtube Kids at one point, but it was just 99% toy ads masquerading as authentic content. To be fair, this description fits a lot of regular (non-kids) platforms too.

True, Transformers, He-Man and My Little Pony were just toy ads in cartoon form, but they were mostly honest about it.

Youtube influencers form a "friendship" with the audience and are more sneaky/non-obvious about the stuff they're advertising, masking it as a "review" or something else. Just having a YT influencer play a game is a HUGE boost in sales.

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Post by e1g »

Jolter wrote: post #171
throwawaylinux wrote: post #123

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Covid didn't do anything to children, the reaction to covid from governments and parents did.

Technically correct! The best kind of correct.

Those silly parents, overreacting by dying, losing their jobs, and and not being available 100% during a generation-defining global crisis of confidence.

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Post by vermote »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #59

As a parent, screen time vs no screen time is a fine line that we have to continually renegotiate. Screens can be great, there is so much good information out there that can enrich our lives. I wouldn't go the "no screens ever" route because that's just being a luddite, robbing them of the change to experience, and acquire expertise in, the digital world that they will be interacting with for the rest of their lives.…

Any recommendations on good pedagogical content channels/playlists on youtube?

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Post by qtPat00ti »

phillc73 wrote: post #16

I guess a lot of people must be using YouTube in a different way to how we do. We do allow our 8-year-old to sometimes watch YouTube, after the homework is finished or if sick. What does he watch? Things like.... * 40-50 year old Russian language cartoons, to help with his language learning. * Quite a few British shows like Edwardian Farm[1], Victorian Farm[2] and Wartime Farm. Pretty educational stuff. * Documentari…

Mind sharing the 40-50 yo Russian language cartoons ?

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Post by scotty79 »

elteto wrote: post #156
scotty79 wrote: post #149

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You drink in front of your kid?

You never had a beer at a restaurant?

No. I find the concept of drinking beer with a meal disgusting on multiple levels.

As a kid I hated when adults were drinking alcohol in my presence. They got even louder and dumber than usual after drinking.

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