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Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by theshrike79 »

jahsome wrote: post #27
gambiting wrote: post #15

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>>My kid is 10 and still doesn't know a single Youtuber by name Authentic curiosity - does your child not go to a normal school? In my experience you can literally detach your home from the internet and live without electricity, but the second your kids go to school they instantly know all the latest fads and videos and what not. To make it to 10 without being at least somewhat familiar with youtube through that expo…

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If you really want to get your mind blown: We've never used a tablet just because a kid is bored.

Children need to be able to handle boredom. If you need to hand over your phone to your toddler just to keep them calm, you've got some work to do.

The amount of kids in strollers with a parent's phone in hand is just staggering. Or a tablet in the headrest for watching shows on any car trip over 15 minutes.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by rTX5CMRXIfFG »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #133
rTX5CMRXIfFG wrote: post #119

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Did we miss out on all of the HN articles and studies about how socmed consumption negatively impacts people’s levels of happiness, self-esteem, and ability to focus, and have we no experience of it?

We didn't, we just read and understood it - in particular, just because a site is classified "socmed", doesn't mean any kind of contact with it will instantly materialize those negative impacts you mention. Or that just because a site is classified "vod", it's substantially safer. YouTube is mostly just a video-on-demand site. The social aspects are immaterial to how kids use the platform.

No, it’s not instant. As a matter of fact it starts with a click, then another, then another, and before you know it you’ve lost an hour just doom-scrolling low-intelligence content.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by TeMPOraL »

blitzar wrote: post #56
watwut wrote: post #46

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Or just the kids learned parents react negatively when saying certain words and do not say them. That is not a sign of being psychopath, that is sign of being neurotypical.

That sounds more like a parent that is totally disconnected from the reality of their child than a particularly deceptive child.

FWIW, if my memory is in any way accurate, 10 y.o. is about the age I stopped discussing a class of topics with my parent, after one too many times of me wanting to share something important and feeling ignored. My parents lost a window into a chunk of my life then, and honestly, never really regained to this day.

It sounds stupid even to me now, but it's really not easy to fix such things at the age of 30+. Those emotional wounds were deep, even if in retrospect silly and unintentional. Deep enough to change how the 10 y.o. me saw himself in relation to the world. And I only first realized what happened around 18-20 y.o., by which time I was well used to never fully opening up in front of my family. It's like a "default setting" burned into the wetware at this point - something I have to consciously struggle to overcome even to this day.

So yeah, it's likely a disconnected parent, not deceptive child. But "disconnected" tends to imply the parent doesn't care, which I don't think is the case either. Rather, like in my experience, the parent may care very much, but not achieve anything, because the connection has been severed, possibly accidentally, and neither the parent nor the kid are fully aware they've lost that link.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by robertlagrant »

scotty79 wrote: post #149
robertlagrant wrote: post #137

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> But do you watch YouTube I do sometimes, although nothing he can see. > Why should I be telling my child not to do something that everyone around him is doing Me doing something isn't the same as "everyone around him". If you refactor that to reflect reality, you get "Why should I be telling my child not to do something that I am doing?" Then my answer is: they're a child. Not an adult. I don't let my son drive, ev…

You drink in front of your kid?

Haha! Well, if you put it like that...

Yes. I don't drink much, once or twice a month, but if we're all round someone else's house I may have a beer in my hand.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by elteto »

scotty79 wrote: post #149
robertlagrant wrote: post #137

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> But do you watch YouTube I do sometimes, although nothing he can see. > Why should I be telling my child not to do something that everyone around him is doing Me doing something isn't the same as "everyone around him". If you refactor that to reflect reality, you get "Why should I be telling my child not to do something that I am doing?" Then my answer is: they're a child. Not an adult. I don't let my son drive, ev…

You drink in front of your kid?

You never had a beer at a restaurant?

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by prawn »

i67vw3 wrote: post #55

Two of my sisters have in total 3 kids (4 to 6 years old) and all three of them need to watch youtube videos while eating. Just few days back, my sister had a 'gathering' to announce her 2nd child (making it total 4 kids combined) and the 3rd kid needed to watch few youtube videos (usually they are of other kids playing or doing some stuff) to eat his dinner, which I found quite odd. This thing is not only related to…

I have three children in the 4-10 yo range. They like screens, and very occasionally they might continue watching a movie while having a snack or weekend dinner, but otherwise it's avoided 99% of the time. I've observed other children unable to eat without a screen adjacent and would never allow it to develop as a habit. I find it incredible that parents have allowed this to form as some sort of crutch. Just boggles my mind.

I don't think it has much to do with the pandemic era. It's parents caving when they should hold firm. It would've happened regardless.

On the other hand, I know one couple with children who are quite firmly against screens almost at all, but it seems unnecessarily miserly. There is excellent content on YouTube (I watch Asian street food videos with my children, or woodworking or Mark Rober's channel occasionally) and I'd rather my kids experience many games ahead of passive TV viewing. Better to play (e.g., Minecraft or Goat Simulator) than watch another kid play the same thing.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by theshrike79 »

blitzar wrote: post #42
jahsome wrote: post #27

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If they have school age children and their children are unaware of these things (or at least the parents believe that to be true) then either the parents are dumb or their children are incredible at deceiving their parents and possibly showing early signs of being psychopaths.

According to the logs the only devices that have accessed Youtube in the last week is the living room Apple TV and my laptop.

If my kid, at 10 years old, has hacked my router and keeps actively deleting the relevant access and DNS logs, they have a future career in information security :D

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by kasperni »

drekipus wrote: post #53
kasperni wrote: post #49

For people cooking alone with a kid. How do you entertain them while cooking without screentime? Kid is 16 months. Too old to lie still, and too young to help out in any capacity without getting injured. Edit: Letting them play with utensils gives me about 2-3 minutes.

Is the kid not capable of quietly playing with their toys? Not making any judgement but I truly think that parenting is a two-person job.

> Is the kid not capable of quietly playing with their toys?

You don't have kids right?

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by ChewFarceSkunk »

spicymapotofu wrote: post #144
ChewFarceSkunk wrote: post #134

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It seems like YT's horde of psychiatrists has tapped into parents' minds as well, so they are programmed into believing they can't downshift in any aspect of their lives and won't sacrifice shit to actually pay attention to their very own children, because: work, money, stress, no time, no energy. Better let YouTube take care of them. Society is fucked.

This comment is the kind of doomposting I use HN to avoid. If you seriously think this, I believe you ought to reread the comment guidelines and refrain from sharing this belief in the future.

I believe if your rainbow bubble is strong enough, you don't have to react to any doomposts out there, because everything's good in the world and nothing can shatter your mindset.

Besides: refrain from sharing this belief in the future? Are you from the belief police or something?

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