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Your 8-year old ski races on weekends?
Yes. We live in Austria and it's just what kids do. In Australia, they learn to swim at a very young age, in Austria it's skiing. He's not the only one racing under-10s class! There's another comment here taking the piss (with the yachting comment), and I too used to have certain pre-conceived ideas about skiing. Sure, if you go to St. Anton and Kitzbuehel, there's a certain vibe. However, at my local slopes it's com…
YouTube has become the world's nanny
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#122We obviously don't let our kid listen to, or watch, those music videos on YouTube. That would be crazy! We use YouTube only as a content discovery mechanism, and if the kids get to see any of it, it's under our experienced supervision[0]. Normally, we identify quality songs and videos[1], and then use youtube-dl (yt-dlp these days) to create an offline-playable, ad-free copy (usually with a pass through Audacity or ffmpeg to fix quality issues and strip out channel jingles, baked-in ads, and other annoyances). We then put those songs and videos on a spare phone that's not connected to the Internet, and use that for music and occasional screen time.
I honestly can't imagine doing it any other way. Yes, maybe the yt-dlp way isn't the most kosher, but there isn't an option I know of that I could pay for that doesn't have ads, questionable content and/or randomly risky autoplay.
(Relevant context: we're in Poland, but we're exposing our kids to ~50/50 mix of English and Polish songs so they're being constantly exposed to both languages.)
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[0] - I can't stress this enough: giving YouTube to small children requires constant monitoring of a person who understands how it works. For example, the other day we left our daughter with her grandpa and allowed him to play her music videos from his phone. Half an hour later, we had to carefully explain to him, that just because the video that just finished playing had Peppa the Pig on it, doesn't mean that the disco rap song on that video, praising sexual conquest and drug abuse, is suddenly OK for a 3.5 y.o.
[1] - Again, you really need to watch a given video yourself first to be sure it's OK for the kids. The first time we exposed our kid to music videos, there was that one song about a fox we played, that seemed all fine until we reached a scene featuring said fox having a shotgun pressed to its head, begging for life to the farmer that caught it. That was the first and the last time I didn't watch the video end-to-end before showing it to my kid.
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#123Two of my sisters have in total 3 kids (4 to 6 years old) and all three of them need to watch youtube videos while eating. Just few days back, my sister had a 'gathering' to announce her 2nd child (making it total 4 kids combined) and the 3rd kid needed to watch few youtube videos (usually they are of other kids playing or doing some stuff) to eat his dinner, which I found quite odd. This thing is not only related to…
COVID absolutely warped kids’ brains in ways we will not understand for decades, but also kids seem to have a hardwired affinity for other kids. For example, I have a two year old who has never seen Youtube/Netflix/TV and has a revolving door of playmates. She loves “reading” books with us, and her non-negotiable toddler “preference” is always for books with photos of other kids. Not animals or cartoons or fun drawin…
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#1241. one where youtube (or any form of media under the sun) is part of daily life,
2. and another where youtube (and any alternative image/video/audio/social media) is completely removed.
Really what I'm asking for is the 21st century version of the identical twin study: https://bigthink.com/neuropsych/identical-twins-raised-in-di...
I wonder how different their dispositions would be.
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#125For people cooking alone with a kid. How do you entertain them while cooking without screentime? Kid is 16 months. Too old to lie still, and too young to help out in any capacity without getting injured. Edit: Letting them play with utensils gives me about 2-3 minutes.
Or avoid cooking in real time. Prepare food at other times. Have healthy snacks available.
Or use things like steamers and slow cookers or oven, all of which need less continuous attention than frying or boiling stuff.
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#126I was raised on tech. A third generation computer user, started writing software at seven under my father’s guidance. A Luddite I am not, but this doesn’t bode well for our future. YouTube is basically an indoctrination engine for white nationalism. It’s more or less what the right claims the American higher education system is for the left, only there’s no conspiracy fantasy to it. https://www.theregister.com/2022/1…
Then the suggested videos started including helicopter crash compilations and he was super keen to see those and lost interest in the more "vanilla" helicopter videos. That was the end of that avenue of entertainment and it's only now he's 11-12 that he's getting some limited access to youtube again.
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#127I physically removed our only television from the lounge to behind some furniture because our eldest (who was 6) was behaving more and more like a drug addict: alternating wheedling, begging, pleading, shouting, to get television. Once I did that, and he saw it really wasn't an option, he changed quite quickly - after around 3 months - and we have it back now, although there's no screen time except weekends (or if so…
As we got older, my siblings and I had full on fights over who got the use the phone and when.
My point is YT is just another thing parents need to manage.
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#128Yea I don’t have kids but I’ve seen it with all kids in my extended family. I like Youtube, there is content of tremendous value, for knowledge and entertainment. However, one thing I’ve personally observed is that too much of it can destroy your focus and motivation. There is some science in there about brain chemistry and reward systems, in line with what some pop scientists with Cal Newport and Andrew Huberman are…
I've never admitted this online but screw it. I've been a drug user for about 2/3 my live. Battled with prescription pills the longest.. managed to kick the habit with meth. YouTube is as addictive as anything i just mentioned. More so if you're in a group testing future services in return for an "ad free" experience (you know the ones which claim to"improve Google services"). Everything else everyone has said is tru…
Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny
#129Two of my sisters have in total 3 kids (4 to 6 years old) and all three of them need to watch youtube videos while eating. Just few days back, my sister had a 'gathering' to announce her 2nd child (making it total 4 kids combined) and the 3rd kid needed to watch few youtube videos (usually they are of other kids playing or doing some stuff) to eat his dinner, which I found quite odd. This thing is not only related to…
Despite not having anything like that as a child I now, at 43, eat all my meals in front of a computer while gaming or watching or reading something.
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#130I physically removed our only television from the lounge to behind some furniture because our eldest (who was 6) was behaving more and more like a drug addict: alternating wheedling, begging, pleading, shouting, to get television. Once I did that, and he saw it really wasn't an option, he changed quite quickly - after around 3 months - and we have it back now, although there's no screen time except weekends (or if so…
But do you watch YouTube or use screens around him? That's my problem with the advice to limit screen time. Why should I be telling my child not to do something that everyone around him is doing?
As an adult, I can always feel the pull of real life. If I keep watching YouTube or playing video games I know it's going to impact my job, wife, kid, etc. Some adults aren't even that good at regulating this, but I think kids are, on average, way worse about it. Many don't know real consequences or regrets for failing to manage their time.
Although I'll admit I do agree with your comment in the sense that I think I should stop using YouTube entirely. People are discussing how it can really mess with a kid's brain, and I don't feel like I'm immune as an adult. Yes, I have more discipline than a child, but this feels like it can be a cheap acknowledgement made as a rationalization, like a chainsmoker saying his lungs are stronger than a kid's, or an alcoholic saying the same of their liver.