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Re: Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight

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Post by marginalia_nu »

mlindner wrote: post #159
marginalia_nu wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While that's true that no individual action matters, it's also true that our individual actions taken as a whole has an impact on the world, and because of that, we must treat individual actions as though they had the impact of collective actions.

Collective individuals have simply no way of affecting the environment in any major way simply by collective behavior change. The only thing that will change things is positive policies that encourage good behavior through positive methods. For example by making electric vehicles attractive Tesla did more for the environment than possibly any single company ever by causing the shift to EVs in the general populace’s p…

In that case we are basically fucked. Nobody is going to be elected on a platform of banning things that are fun.

All human action is individual human action. It got us into this problem, and is the only thing thay will fix it.

Re: Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight

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Post by godot »

topher515 wrote: post #20
ssgodderidge wrote: post #7

Any flight buffs know the estimated cost of doing something like that? I’m all for having fun, and I love that they spent the money to do it

Not a flight buff, but... - Jet fuel from NYC to LAX seems to cost ~$10k.[1] - You pay a pilot $50 / hour salary. (+100% more with benefits?)[2] - Double all of that for a bunch of random things I can't think of (airport fees?) My napkin math seems to indicate this couldn't possibly cost Boeing more than $10-20k? Pretty small potatoes to such a large company. [1] https://simpleflying.com/commercial-airliner-fuel-cost…

Does that napkin math subtract the cost of the same delivery flight but without the stunt?

I didn't read about the flight but I assume that delivery was happening anyway, with or without the stunt. I am guessing it took an hour or two extra, so the fuel and pilot salary cost should only be what was extra in addition to the regular flight amount?

Re: Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight

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Post by undersuit »

stanmancan wrote: post #177
alexose wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More cynically: Roughly 2.4 tons of fuel, equating to 16.8 tons of CO2 emissions.

I have no clue what I'm talking about but this piqued my interest. If I ask WolframAlpha: Q:how many carbon molecules in 2.4 tons A: 1.092×10^29 molecules X molecules of pure carbon carbon would theoretically require 2X molecules of oxygen to turn into CO2 Q: how much does (10^29)*2 molecules of oxygen weight in us tons A: 5.827 tons So 2.4 tons of Carbon + 5.827 tons of Oxygen = 8.227 tons of CO2? Maybe? What am I m…

Kerosene(jet fuel) has between 6 and 20 carbon atoms per molecule. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene#Properties_and_grades

Have fun with the math!

Re: Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight

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Post by [deleted] »

mlindner wrote: post #159
marginalia_nu wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While that's true that no individual action matters, it's also true that our individual actions taken as a whole has an impact on the world, and because of that, we must treat individual actions as though they had the impact of collective actions.

Collective individuals have simply no way of affecting the environment in any major way simply by collective behavior change. The only thing that will change things is positive policies that encourage good behavior through positive methods. For example by making electric vehicles attractive Tesla did more for the environment than possibly any single company ever by causing the shift to EVs in the general populace’s p…

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Re: Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight

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Post by dbingham »

americanmotto wrote: post #176
mach1ne wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t mean to be negative, but most people certainly don’t try their best. Many are only working for the paycheck and don’t attach their sense of success to their professional output.

Agree. I've said for ~10 years now, that it seems the American Dream has transitioned from "Anything is possible as long as you work hard enough." to "Do as little as work possible to get the same paycheck." Something has definitely changed in the culture.

What could have possibly changed in the last several decades that might have affected someone's willingness to give their job there all?

https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

Sorry for the sarcasm, but it is very frustrating to see people standing around wondering at this change as if it's a moral failing when people have been pointing out for decades that those at the top broke the social contract and that there would eventually be consequences.

Re: Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight

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Post by kibwen »

protastus wrote: post #73
supernova87a wrote: post #46

I find it just really endearing that at companies, regardless of how many other issues they have or the dysfunctions and bland corporate culture, there are people who keep the pride of purpose and "olden days / traditions" in their memory and do things like this. Or are able to call on institutional memory of something bygone, that reappears once in a while. (whether it's a big gesture like this or small cultural day…

Every complex project lives and dies by a relatively small group of true believers. From the outside, we don't know who they are, but sometimes we get a glimpse of their passion.

This goes for human organizations and communities in general. If you want something to persist and excel, find a way to empower the people who truly Give A Shit.

Re: Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight

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Post by AlexandrB »

knodi123 wrote: post #178
aendruk wrote: post #139

Screenshot: https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/QmcjrYXR934QZqBuMHioRdcZEmo... On small displays this is otherwise obstructed by a cookie popup that offers only an “accept all” button. What’s even the point of the popup then?

> What’s even the point of the popup then? Complying with idiotic bureaucratic regulations. Nobody wants to be popping that thing up, but if they don't, they can get reamed by the EU.

They could just... not use tracking cookies. Then no banner is required. The real idiocy is every website wanting to hoover up data.
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