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This is hacker news, a title that includes breaking the rules. Should almost be a matter of pride to get it for less than $20..
> Should almost be a matter of pride to get it for less than $20. When you're a high schooler, yes, even Steve Jobs did it. But when your monthly salary is easily in the thousands, it's not a matter of pride to get it for <$20, it's a matter of stupidity.
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You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?
I use my toothbrush every day but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. I use my keyboard everyday but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. In fact, I paid around $4 total for it, as paying more would bring significantly more diminishing returns. I use my phone every day and have used it for the past 5 years with no issue, it has brought me so much value and yet, if I draw the line, it didn't even reach $20 per month…
I think a personal subscription model where ChatGPT Plus subscribers are given personal API access for use with third-party open source apps (e.g., Chrome extensions, Siri Shortcuts, VSCode extensions) would be extremely valuable and much more lucrative than selling to specific companies. OpenAI has the opportunity to become the next fundamental utility provider for society. In the same way everybody has a data plan…
I don't think so. An open source competitor is OpenAI's worst nightmare. We have seen this with Stable Diffusion against DALL-E 2. So if a free open-source version of GPT-4 comes around and it is better than GPT-4, then OpenAI's moat is gone.
There will always be competition and an open-source model will surely come on top, especially something like Stable Diffusion.
> Future children will grow up oblivious to their AI subscription in the same way current children are oblivious to the ramifications of their internet subscriptions.
I'm very sure 99.9% of people are aware that they need to pay for access the internet in their home.
> We are going through the AOL stage again.
I don't think an OpenAI subscription and a AOL subscription is even the same thing or even comparable.
$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.
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>typical mobile phone plan is $25+ Jeepers! €5.99 - 70Gb data, unlimited calls and sms. You guys are being gouged to the max...especially with that '+' sign, at the end.
Yeah, telecom companies in the US and Canada have us by the balls. It's at least $60 with taxes....we just get fucked compared to what Euros pay.
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ChatGPT is trained on LibGen, among others, no? To the best of my knowledge, all of these generators are taking mountains of content without asking the creators, aka, pirated materials.
Is it pirated materials if it's publicly accessible ? It's quite similar to someone reading the web
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I find it fascinating the level of angst people have that open ai hasn’t let them generate racist, violent, or pornographic materials. I would build the guard rails too. I can’t stop you from doing what you want to do on your own dime, nor would I want to. But I don’t feel compelled to let people use tools I build for evil, in whatever way I construe evil.
I find it fascinating that so many people have such an interest in making a bot say something racist. this thing is a very powerful tool. and the best use they can come up with is "make it be racist"?
But as a curious researcher, I desperately want to explore the boundaries of what’s possible with AI.
Philosophically, that requires access to a “true” AI model: one without morality filters or censorship.
The internet effectively holds the sum total output of modern human existence. Stifling an AI’s expressiveness is akin to technologically denying ourselves freedom of speech.
I think a personal subscription model where ChatGPT Plus subscribers are given personal API access for use with third-party open source apps (e.g., Chrome extensions, Siri Shortcuts, VSCode extensions) would be extremely valuable and much more lucrative than selling to specific companies. OpenAI has the opportunity to become the next fundamental utility provider for society. In the same way everybody has a data plan…
I don't agree with you about how foundational this is, I think chatGPt (as a concept, not a given instantiaiton) is mostly a toy people will get bored with (and not a stepping stone to something more like AGI) But whether I'm wrong or not I'm very excited about the idea of a ground-up paid service like this that could potentially have a b2c business model based on people actually paying for it instead of being a prod…
I think that would be correct, if ChatGPT doesn't continue to improve.
Given the rate of progress so far, most of us are expecting that there will be much more progress, and it will continue to add more value. This is where it becomes foundational.
Or Skynet :-)
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I think the monitor example is different from the ChatGPT example. A monitor is relatively cheap, I would own it, and it will primarily improve my life and secondarily improve my productivity. In contrast, with ChatGPT, if I'm working on a difficult programming job, I spend X time thinking deeply and Y time actually typing the solution. A system that can type for me is convenient but it may not speed things since I c…
This is how I'm thinking about it. If I save an hour a week, will I really clock out at 4PM on Friday and say "in the counterfactual world without ChatGPT, I would still be working, so I'm free to clock out now". No, probably not. Will I work on another task for extra hour to productivity-maxx? Also, probably not. Probably the rest of my tasks will magically expand to fill that time. Or I will spend it fiddling aroun…
Haha, exactly my thoughts (https://github.com/rikhuijzer/ata). Davinci is nicer (more succinct) than ChatGPT anyway.