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Post by [deleted] »

extr wrote: post #265
ezekg wrote: post #205

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You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

No. I'm a salaried employee. Marginal time/effort savings do not directly translate into more money for me. But the $20 charge hits my bank account today. Perhaps if I use it consistently enough and in smart enough ways I will be perceived to be a more valuable/productive employee, which might translate to a raise. But that's a lot of maybes. I'm sure it will get to that point eventually, but by then the value will b…

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Post by TchoBeer »

Beaver117 wrote: post #330
jeremyjh wrote: post #167

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So you are doing something like 400 queries a month and the aggregate value of all those responses is less than $20 to you? I've got to ask, why bother querying it at all?

Thats stupid, I use search engines much much more than 400 times a month and they are free.

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Post by popol12 »

drc500free wrote: post #366

I did a LinkedIn poll last week of what people would pay for ChatGPT Plus. Small N and limited to my social network, but I think it shows that $20 isn't the right final price and code generation isn't the best use case: ChatGPT is exploring a paid model. What's the most that would you/your employer would be willing to pay per user for a ChatGPT subscription? It's fun, but not worth money 14 (35%) What's interesting i…

Or they just have higher income and can afford to pay that much

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by gdb »

qwertox wrote: post #145

~~~ To the ChatGPT Team ~~~ I'm currently receiving answers FROM OTHER USERS with this new version from 30 Jan, completely unrelated to my question: Q: Why is it easier for me to do endurance training on an empty stomach? A1: There are several things you can do to reduce the chance of getting a yeast infection: regenerate response: A2: There are many benefits to using cloud storage solutions such as Google Drive, Dro…

(I work at OpenAI.)

Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model.

That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue so this doesn't happen in the future!

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Post by extr »

joe_the_user wrote: post #354
m463 wrote: post #308

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This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

I think the monitor example is different from the ChatGPT example. A monitor is relatively cheap, I would own it, and it will primarily improve my life and secondarily improve my productivity. In contrast, with ChatGPT, if I'm working on a difficult programming job, I spend X time thinking deeply and Y time actually typing the solution. A system that can type for me is convenient but it may not speed things since I c…

This is how I'm thinking about it. If I save an hour a week, will I really clock out at 4PM on Friday and say "in the counterfactual world without ChatGPT, I would still be working, so I'm free to clock out now". No, probably not. Will I work on another task for extra hour to productivity-maxx? Also, probably not. Probably the rest of my tasks will magically expand to fill that time. Or I will spend it fiddling around with something else of dubious value. There's a whole psychological element to it. If I was a perfect min/max-er and allocated my time perfectly based on ROI, I would probably already be a millionaire by some other means.

And it's good to keep in mind, the comparison is not $20 for ChatGPT versus nothing. It's $20 for ChatGPT Plus, versus my API-hacky-solution for $2, versus ChatGPT free, for $0.

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Post by Spivak »

LunarAurora wrote: post #75
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #3

Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.

I'll bet (ever increasing) restrictions and filters will become the norm for these "open-ended" services. Only OSS will break them. With so much money in play now, Managers are in charge, and Risk management is their favourite toy. Copyright risk, reputational risk, security risk, you name it.

Which is fine, people who want to use the AI for customer facing things and can't risk "oops AI was accidentally racist" and companies that don't want every blogspam site posting a never-ending "Is OpenAI's ChatGPT Bad For Society?" and the inevitable "Inside The 2024 Election Disinformation Campaign, Powered By ChatGPT" will pay for the filtered version because, as much as it sucks to say, the filtered version is the actually useful one. The unfiltered version is interesting as a reflection of online discourse, memes, and creative writing, but not really better as a tool.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

blagie wrote: post #356
Forgeties79 wrote: post #345

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The issue is once you buy a monitor for your work, they're then getting to rent it for free. If you need something to do your job better than they need to pay for it. You hurt yourself (financially) and you are contributing to a workplace culture where employees buy what they need. It's not just a monitor you're paying for! To be clear, I am not judging you. You did what was good for you and took the path of least re…

I don't care what they're getting as much as I care about what I'm getting. If I have a nice dual-monitor setup, in a business where everyone gets a 19" Dell, I will be more productive. That will lead to more promotions, lower odds of being fired, etc. I will come out ahead. Plus, I'll be happier. If my employer benefits too, how does that hurt me?

Fair enough! I don't fully agree but it's a matter of opinion ultimately. Was just answering your question as I see it.

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Post by behnamoh »

extr wrote: post #107

I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

Does anyone know if this can be done in other macOS automation apps too? (like Keyboard Maestro, Hammerspoon, Raycast, Alfred, ...)
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