Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

ChatGPT Plus

openai.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

221–230 of 1001 posts

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#221

Post by ISL »

Buttons840 wrote: post #202
LunarAurora wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll bet (ever increasing) restrictions and filters will become the norm for these "open-ended" services. Only OSS will break them. With so much money in play now, Managers are in charge, and Risk management is their favourite toy. Copyright risk, reputational risk, security risk, you name it.

Eventually they're going to connect these AI's to some sort of planning algorithm and then they'll actually be able to do things and serve as a digital assistant. (We're approaching Skynet territory here, but I think AI will remain flawed enough that it stays at subhuman intelligence.) The restrictions on such an AI will have to be extreme. But... I predict people will pool their resources and build their own digital…

...but I think AI will remain flawed enough that it stays at subhuman intelligence

Humans are real flawed, too.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#223

Post by olddustytrail »

dotBen wrote: post #32
40acres wrote: post #18

I'd love to understand how the "Plus" naming convention became so popular.

Well, it kinda started in 1994... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Plus !

The ZX Spectrum+, followup to the 1982 ZX Spectrum, was released in 1984.

Got you beat by a decade!

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#224

Post by InCityDreams »

lostmsu wrote: post #197
kokanee wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

You realize that near human-level AI for $20/month is a bargain in a country where typical mobile phone plan is $25+, and is basically universally affordable?

>typical mobile phone plan is $25+

Jeepers! €5.99 - 70Gb data, unlimited calls and sms. You guys are being gouged to the max...especially with that '+' sign, at the end.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#225

Post by nextaccountic »

lostmsu wrote: post #197
kokanee wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

You realize that near human-level AI for $20/month is a bargain in a country where typical mobile phone plan is $25+, and is basically universally affordable?

Universally affordable?

Here's two data points for you, minimum wage in Zambia is 13 USD per month, in India it's 65 USD per month.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#226

Post by moab »

qorrect wrote: post #210
kokanee wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

I'm extremely worried. This tech is going to replace a lot of jobs in the next 10-20, including ours ( software ). And if not replace, it's going to cut the available positions drastically . We already have a great divide between those with money and those without and this is a nuclear bomb about to go off. Without any sort of UBI or social safety nets, this is going to be a true disaster.

> including software

highly unlikely. You should be concerned if you are just plumbing between different software stacks, but even that is likely hard to fully automate.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#227

Post by gamerpuppy »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #159
gamerpuppy wrote: post #135

We need to start talking about AI safety and nationalizing AI research like yesterday. ChatGPT is already having destabilizing effects and it is frightening how little we are discussing (this hugely powerful tool)'s potential as a weapon.

How could it be dangerous? How could it be used as a weapon?

ChatGPT is general AI. It perform actions in a class requiring abstract thought which previously only humans were capable of. Sure the applications we see it is capable of are limited now, but that’s a consequence only of it’s operating environment. Using traditional AI techniques like tree search and recursive use of subproblems, which ChatGPT itself could design, it is not obvious to me that any problem is outside of it’s capability in solving.

As to why that is dangerous, there are many reasons.

1. It devalues human life for those in power. Technology has strictly increased wealth inequality over the last century and this takes it to the nth degree. 2. Even in its current form, it is having society destabilizing effects, go on reddit and see posts from high school students asking what they should even study when its clear ChatGPT will be able to do (research, programming, math) better than a degree will prepare them to. 3. Google the paperclip problem. 4. The amount of computing resources it takes to run ChatGPT is shockingly / absurdly low, we are far far from the hardware scaling limits of AI so it is obvious that it will continue to improve, even without further algorithmic breakthroughs.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#228

Post by ElijahLynn »

transitivebs wrote: post #47

Can't wait for the official API. In the meantime, we discovered a "stealth model" which is being used by some YC companies that ChatGPT uses under the hood. I just updated the chatgpt NPM package to use this stealth model w/ the official OpenAI completions API: https://github.com/transitive-bullshit/chatgpt-api

They do have an official API here > https://openai.com/api/

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#229

Post by drusepth »

qup wrote: post #194
drusepth wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. I built a super simple editor in rails 2 years ago on GPT3 [1] that simply pulls the most recent N words in your document as context and tries three times to complete the next paragraph for you, and just inserts whichever completion you choose directly into your doc. I've written probably 60k+ words over the years using it; doesn't write a whole story for you, but definitely keeps your momentum going any…

This is totally an aside, and I'm not calling you out, but I think it's an interesting topic: > I've written probably 60k+ words over the years using it Is this how you view it? You wrote the words? I personally would kinda view your role as a creative director and curator of gpt completions. I think it's going to be an interesting decade wrt content creation.

Definitely an interesting topic. I actually went and plugged a bunch of my stories/poetry into the new OpenAI human/ai classifier to see what it spit out and it all came back human-written, so at least there's that. :)

I see completions as just one more tool in the writer's arsenal, and not something that you can just let run wild on its own. I don't know my ratio of finger-written words vs completed words, but I think the line blurs even further when also doing (sometimes dozens of) revisions across both categories of words. (Just to clarify: "revisions" here being used in the traditional editing sense, not just regenerating/editing prompts, which I usually _also_ end up doing several times before finding something worth editing).

I also have a smaller WIP editor I'm working on that uses other AI models to flag words/phrases I could replace and suggests alternatives, among other smaller editing replacements. If I have an AI swap a single word out in a sentence for me, I'd personally still consider myself the author of that sentence. For me at least, writing is more about wholly encoding a story for a reader to experience -- word choice and structure are a few small tools to accomplish that, albeit incredibly important ones.

>I personally would kinda view your role as a creative director and curator of gpt completions.

I like this, but I'd probably change it for myself and all writers to creative director and curator of words. Not too different, IMO. :)

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#230

Post by apples_oranges »

ezekg wrote: post #205
extr wrote: post #107

I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

This is hacker news, a title that includes breaking the rules. Should almost be a matter of pride to get it for less than $20..
Post reply on HN