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Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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If youtube is not your thing, they also post results on their site. Here's their most recent review: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3635-fractal-meshify-2... Look at that set of tests for a case . What more could you want?

The most recent review is from more than 2 years ago ?

Oh dear you're right, I didn't look at the date. I guess you're stuck with youtube then, sorry, forget everything I said.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Have you actually looked at the GN reviews or are you just assuming this... I agree that text would be nicer to have but man. Also there's chapters now at least, so if you don't care about the analysis you can just jump to the numbers.

> so if you don't care about the analysis you can just jump to the numbers. I really disagree. See for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtVowYykviM . Does he measure idle power consumption ? It's impossible to tell from the chapter names. (Spoiler: he doesn't). Also whether he compares the performance of the 7900 sans X with the 7900X at similar power levels (Spoiler: he does, albeit only for 7950X and a minor…

No you're right that text would be better, especially when you're looking for specific things. I have a feeling though that we're in the minority with that unfortunately. What's sad, and what I had assumed was still the case, is that GN no longer uploads transcripts to their website.

I had the same gripe learning firebase with pretty great official tutorials, which would have taken half the time if I could just read them.

The automatic transcripts work fairly well which is how I cope with it.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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I feel compelled to mention that this space has existed as a niche community for many years now. I've personally been using a NoFan CR-80EH in my workstations for over 10 years. I think it's subjectively the most beautiful heatsink I've ever seen. You do need to plan your build to accomodate such a cooler though. - Open Air case to allow free movement of air in and out of your case - 65W TDP CPU While a lot of people…

Interestingly, the 7900 currently costs more than the 7900x (quick Amazon search). And my understanding is the 7900 is just the 7900x that has its TDP defaulted to 65 watts. So you could buy the cheaper 7900x and just go into BIOS and limit the TDP to make it a 7900.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Can you really blame reviewers? Doing a comprehensive thorough review is hard work that has to meet a very aggressive deadline to maximize utility. Meanwhile youtube channels like LTT are printing money on low quality low effort content. Obviously you'd rather do that.

> Meanwhile youtube channels like LTT are printing money on low quality low effort content. I find this statement rather snarky and it is imho quite close to being against the HN Guidelines. Anyway I also think it is wrong. Sure not all videos from LTT are high-quality well researched and contain thorough testing but when they are really reviewing a product they put a lot of effort into it. They are even in the proce…

Despite all the effort, benchrmak results are still not consistent. The other day I wanted to check how Ryzen 7600 compares to i13600k in code compilation. Ratio in time between these 2 processors reported by different authors were wildly different:

LTT: 129% GN: 160% Techpowerup: 105%

With results fluctuating up to 2 generational differences it is hard to make sense, despite all the authors effort. This leaves that kind of content more of entertainment rather than informational and from that perspective low effort doesn't bother me.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Noctua brand is magical. You put noctua logo on any radiator and it dissipate heat twice more effective. You put noctua logo on a fan and it twice as silent while pushing twice more air. Noctua’s aluminium is not your regular aluminium, but much, much more. I heard car with Noctua radiator cooled to -274 once.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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post #73

I feel compelled to mention that this space has existed as a niche community for many years now. I've personally been using a NoFan CR-80EH in my workstations for over 10 years. I think it's subjectively the most beautiful heatsink I've ever seen. You do need to plan your build to accomodate such a cooler though. - Open Air case to allow free movement of air in and out of your case - 65W TDP CPU While a lot of people…

Interestingly, the 7900 currently costs more than the 7900x (quick Amazon search). And my understanding is the 7900 is just the 7900x that has its TDP defaulted to 65 watts. So you could buy the cheaper 7900x and just go into BIOS and limit the TDP to make it a 7900.

Interestingly, the 7900 currently costs more than the 7900x

7900 comes with a (supposedly decent) fan, 7900X does not.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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AIOs are far from silent.

AIOs can be very quiet. Mine is (Corsair H90), but only when the pump is not running full speed (then it is quiet, but not very quiet).

There can be an arbitrarily large difference between “very quiet” and “silent”, or more precisely, between “still perceptible” and “not perceptible”. This depends on the environment (whether it’s so silent that you could hear a pin drop) and also on the individual hearing threshold and accommodation. AIOs are generally more perceptible than a silent build using fans.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Is there a good aggregation of cooler performance somewhere? I've recently completed a build for the first time in a decade and was pleasantly surprised by tools like PC Part Picker, the assembly was a breeze (many micro improvements by everyone), and everything 'just worked'. Literally the only question I was out cold for was which cooler is good enough? With some coolers rivaling RAM costs and cases having fixings…

Noctua always. For best performance on air cooling.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Yeah, the ad-funded model and how that supports reviewers seems to have damaged well structured and comprehensive independent review sites. It's all in videos or really low-effort stuff nowadays, and that makes it hard to draw conclusions without significant effort - and even then, considerable risk of drawing the wrong conclusions. I think this affects far more than just coolers; it's simply that for categories that…

Can you really blame reviewers? Doing a comprehensive thorough review is hard work that has to meet a very aggressive deadline to maximize utility. Meanwhile youtube channels like LTT are printing money on low quality low effort content. Obviously you'd rather do that.

I'm not blaming anyone; it's just an observation that it's harder to find comprehensive reviews than it used to be.

I mean, stuff like https://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU-2020/2758 still exists, but I get the impression they no longer have the resources they once did to really fill it the way they used to; and similar things goes for other sites. I think the best option I know about that remains is https://www.techpowerup.com/review/, but they're much less in depth than what used to be available. It's still great to have such a broad set of reviews, mind you, and they're doing a great job. I get the impression there's much less funding for stuff like this, making the last few survivors all the more impressive.

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