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If youtube is not your thing, they also post results on their site. Here's their most recent review: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3635-fractal-meshify-2... Look at that set of tests for a case . What more could you want?
The most recent review is from more than 2 years ago ?
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Have you actually looked at the GN reviews or are you just assuming this... I agree that text would be nicer to have but man. Also there's chapters now at least, so if you don't care about the analysis you can just jump to the numbers.
> so if you don't care about the analysis you can just jump to the numbers. I really disagree. See for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtVowYykviM . Does he measure idle power consumption ? It's impossible to tell from the chapter names. (Spoiler: he doesn't). Also whether he compares the performance of the 7900 sans X with the 7900X at similar power levels (Spoiler: he does, albeit only for 7950X and a minor…
I had the same gripe learning firebase with pretty great official tutorials, which would have taken half the time if I could just read them.
The automatic transcripts work fairly well which is how I cope with it.
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#73I feel compelled to mention that this space has existed as a niche community for many years now. I've personally been using a NoFan CR-80EH in my workstations for over 10 years. I think it's subjectively the most beautiful heatsink I've ever seen. You do need to plan your build to accomodate such a cooler though. - Open Air case to allow free movement of air in and out of your case - 65W TDP CPU While a lot of people…
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Can you really blame reviewers? Doing a comprehensive thorough review is hard work that has to meet a very aggressive deadline to maximize utility. Meanwhile youtube channels like LTT are printing money on low quality low effort content. Obviously you'd rather do that.
> Meanwhile youtube channels like LTT are printing money on low quality low effort content. I find this statement rather snarky and it is imho quite close to being against the HN Guidelines. Anyway I also think it is wrong. Sure not all videos from LTT are high-quality well researched and contain thorough testing but when they are really reviewing a product they put a lot of effort into it. They are even in the proce…
LTT: 129% GN: 160% Techpowerup: 105%
With results fluctuating up to 2 generational differences it is hard to make sense, despite all the authors effort. This leaves that kind of content more of entertainment rather than informational and from that perspective low effort doesn't bother me.
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#75Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K
#76I feel compelled to mention that this space has existed as a niche community for many years now. I've personally been using a NoFan CR-80EH in my workstations for over 10 years. I think it's subjectively the most beautiful heatsink I've ever seen. You do need to plan your build to accomodate such a cooler though. - Open Air case to allow free movement of air in and out of your case - 65W TDP CPU While a lot of people…
Interestingly, the 7900 currently costs more than the 7900x (quick Amazon search). And my understanding is the 7900 is just the 7900x that has its TDP defaulted to 65 watts. So you could buy the cheaper 7900x and just go into BIOS and limit the TDP to make it a 7900.
7900 comes with a (supposedly decent) fan, 7900X does not.
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AIOs are far from silent.
AIOs can be very quiet. Mine is (Corsair H90), but only when the pump is not running full speed (then it is quiet, but not very quiet).
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#79Is there a good aggregation of cooler performance somewhere? I've recently completed a build for the first time in a decade and was pleasantly surprised by tools like PC Part Picker, the assembly was a breeze (many micro improvements by everyone), and everything 'just worked'. Literally the only question I was out cold for was which cooler is good enough? With some coolers rivaling RAM costs and cases having fixings…
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Yeah, the ad-funded model and how that supports reviewers seems to have damaged well structured and comprehensive independent review sites. It's all in videos or really low-effort stuff nowadays, and that makes it hard to draw conclusions without significant effort - and even then, considerable risk of drawing the wrong conclusions. I think this affects far more than just coolers; it's simply that for categories that…
Can you really blame reviewers? Doing a comprehensive thorough review is hard work that has to meet a very aggressive deadline to maximize utility. Meanwhile youtube channels like LTT are printing money on low quality low effort content. Obviously you'd rather do that.
I mean, stuff like https://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU-2020/2758 still exists, but I get the impression they no longer have the resources they once did to really fill it the way they used to; and similar things goes for other sites. I think the best option I know about that remains is https://www.techpowerup.com/review/, but they're much less in depth than what used to be available. It's still great to have such a broad set of reviews, mind you, and they're doing a great job. I get the impression there's much less funding for stuff like this, making the last few survivors all the more impressive.