No graphs and all comparison is with Intel's Macs, not with M1s.
Was looking for comparisons with the M1 too, they do briefly do a few further down - but I'm guessing it's not worth the upgrade.
MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max
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I would strongly recommend the M2 air at 24GB, I too bought one of the first M1 airs with 8GB ram and that laptop is just gathering dust right now, but the latest ones are great, the increase in RAM really lets the processor shine.
Don’t they have thermal throttling issues?
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#913There's also a new Mac Mini, which I found A LOT MORE interesting, given that its keyboard or batteries won't break: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/01/apple-introduces-new-...
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Yes, you can charge from any of the USB-C ports. Some discussion here is saying the MagSafe will charge at 140W, while the USB-C ports will only charge at 100W, so it will be a bit slower.
Thanks. I know that was the case with the M1 MBPs, but wasn't sure if that would carry over to the M2 versions, and I didn't see anything about charging via the USB-C ports in the press relese.
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My understanding is that it's actually quite difficult to fit a high quality camera into a laptop lid. If you look at how thin the lid is you'll notice it's at least twice as thin as a cell phone.
Doesn't stop them using compound-eye like designs... They can be very thin and have 100+ 'cameras' over just a few square millimeters, all using the same CCD. As a bonus, they (after a bit of processing) output 3d information, allowing them to use the same system for face ID etc.
You can get up to 4K on external cameras or on a few desktop monitors with thick cases but those cameras are much too large for laptop cases.
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#916The 220ppi Apple displays looked like deep-fried dukey to me suddenly; it bugged me all day, every day after that. YEMV, but the text rendering 280ppi Dell was phenomenally crisper, better looking, and less blurry. It's something you can't unsee.
I'm not sure that there are any HDMI 2.1 displays on the market yet at 31-32" (I haven't checked out this year's CES coverage yet), but these new Macs (MBP and Mini) mark the first non-"Intel Mac with an eGPU" machines from Apple that support 8K.
To me, that's the most interesting thing about them.
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#917What is up with the gigantic notch? Deal-killer for me, personally. My Intel MBP works just fine so long as I disable Intel TurboBoost.
The only thing that's in there is a very low quality webcam and an ambient light sensor so as far as I can tell it's 90% empty black space.
That notch is a very clever way to expand the size of the screen without increasing the size of the case. There is very little downside. that middle part of the menu bar is not used by most apps. When there are more menu items, the system automatically skips over that notch.
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#918My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…
I am as happy with my 13” M1 mbp 2020 as you with your. My only gripe is that the screen is too small and more importantly after two years I went from a stellar 21h battery life to 13h for lightweight work and it now also seems to drain on sleep. And it seems to lose charge quicker under load. The battery capacity is still reported as 91%of spec which does not explain this behaviour. I hope yours holds up better.
The other was just a straight-up hardware issue with the computer. I'd close the lid close to a low battery and let it stay closed long enough for it to hibernate, and then when I'd open it back up it will have completely drained and I'd get a kernal panic. They replaced it after quite a lot of back and forth until I was able to prove it.
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I believe OP has the 13” MacBook Pro, which runs the plain M1 from the Air, not the M1 Pro or Max of the 14” and 16” models.
Ahh so that's what it is. I was confused because my coworker has the MBP with an M1 and dual monitor works fine for him. But that ran contrary to all research on my MBP specifically. Seems I'm due for an upgrade at some point in that case...
The 14” and 16” MacBook Pros have M1 Pro and M1 Max processors and they support more video streams. The M1 Pro supports 2 external displays and the M1 Max supports 4.
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#920There's also a new Mac Mini, which I found A LOT MORE interesting, given that its keyboard or batteries won't break: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/01/apple-introduces-new-...
The lack of dedicated DisplayPort ports is fairly disappointing to me since their implementation is just "native DisplayPort output over USB‑C" and it doesn't support MST, so you can only do one displayport signal per port, even with a thunderbolt 4 hub with some bidirectional USB-C Displayport cables.
But it is "just" a software problem, right? So they could come to their senses and change their mind.
It seems insane to me to keep putting DisplayPort ports on computers when we have USB-C, but it also seems insane to ship machines with crippled USB ports that don't support more than one monitor... so I wouldn't be surprised if they fix their OS in this regard.
(Apple being Apple though, the software fix might well "require" an M3 processor....)