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Post by nfriedly »

skinnymuch wrote: post #705
nfriedly wrote: post #428

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Another reason the Air is a good choice for most people is that it doesn't have a fan. I've cleaned quite a bit of dust/lint/etc. out of various laptops. Without a fan, that's much less likely to be an issue. In one recent case, a family member was about to buy an entire new laptop because their old one was feeling very sluggish. I checked it out and realized that the fan had completely died and the system was consta…

How do you know this stuff? My old 2014 MacBook Pro has the battery swelling up. I can’t afford more than a few hundred to fix everything. It’s a 2nd comp I use for a remote coworking Zoom session all day. I could have the same problems. I’ve never cleaned the laptop either..heh. I am a programmer so I am not afraid of hardware.

First, as raincom mentioned, an expanding battery is a major concern. I'd recommend putting it somewhere fireproof immediately (such as in a metal trash can, or on a concrete pad), and making a plan to have the battery removed and properly disposed of in the near future.

Running the battery down to below 30% might also be a good idea, but only after it's somewhere fireproof.

Edit: here's some more info: https://www.reddit.com/r/spicypillows/comments/gebotv/faq_wh...

To answer your question, though, I've learned from iFixit guides, youtube videos, just taking things apart and tinkering with them, etc. Apple uses some oddball screws sometimes, but you can get a toolkit with everything you need for $30 or less.

I'm more of a software guy, but I mess with hardware occasionally. (I'm also willing to pay a professional if I feel like it's over my head.)

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Post by kdrag0n »

hk1337 wrote: post #35

How is development setup on the M2? Specifically Docker and Python. Docker VM has always seemed rather meh on my M1 and installing different python versions with pyenv either goes well or has _a lot_ of workarounds.

Shameless plug on this topic: I've been working on a new Linux+Docker+Kubernetes solution for macOS recently! Already has quite a few improvements over existing apps including Docker Desktop, Rancher, Colima, etc: fast networking (30 Gbps), VirtioFS and bidirectional filesystem sharing, Rosetta for fast x86, full Linux (not only Docker), lower CPU usage, and other tweaks.

More details here to avoid spamming this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34374176

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Post by johnwalkr »

Uehreka wrote: post #479
sod wrote: post #225

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Yes, the year over year improvements were 90% just the tsmc node changes. But the ridiculous (and IMO amazing) performance per watt is a mix of iOS/macOS and their chip design. Those efficiency cores are unmatched, paired with the right scheduling from the OS. The M2 is underwhelming as its the same 5nm as the M1 was. But rumors say the M2 pro and max are on the 3nm node. And it took so long for the release, as 3nm w…

In the beginning I thought the “performance per watt” thing was just folks who want Apple to be better clinging to a stat that made it look like that was the case. But in late 2021 I was long overdue for an upgrade, so I got an M1 Max MacBook Pro and holy hell, now I get it. The battery lasts stupid long. Like, the fact that I can bring this thing on a plane or train without worrying if they’ll have working electric…

I use the slightly older 14” macbook at work and since I’m always in different meeting rooms, and only at my desk for half the day I charge it like I charge my phone. If I notice it’s low, I charge it when I go for lunch or whatever.

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Post by ako »

mdasen wrote: post #545
Uehreka wrote: post #479

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In the beginning I thought the “performance per watt” thing was just folks who want Apple to be better clinging to a stat that made it look like that was the case. But in late 2021 I was long overdue for an upgrade, so I got an M1 Max MacBook Pro and holy hell, now I get it. The battery lasts stupid long. Like, the fact that I can bring this thing on a plane or train without worrying if they’ll have working electric…

Yea, I upgraded to an M1 Pro and it's truly amazing. I used to always look at benchmarks and always want to upgrade to the newest thing that was coming out. Now I have a laptop that feels like it just works. It doesn't get hot, I've never heard the fan, and just so many of the typical worries/concerns just aren't there for me anymore. Yesterday, there was an article about Intel showing off a "35 watt" chip that was b…

Stories like yours made me upgrade my home computer to an iPad Air 2022. It’s basically an M1 laptop with a touch screen, and when you pair it with a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and attach it to an external display, it feels like a full pc.

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swe_dima wrote: post #616

These new ARM chips are almost perfect, the only bad part is... ARM. Most backend devs these days use Docker, and serious Docker usage on M1/M2 macs isn't really possible due to bugs and super slow performance. I was doing benchmarks and for our workloads images would build several times slower as well as our test suites. We had many devs in our company buy the shiny macbooks only having to return them due to incompa…

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Post by f8 »

deergomoo wrote: post #669
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Can you explain what you mean by "lacks dual monitor support natively"? I run two monitors on my MBP M1.

I believe OP has the 13” MacBook Pro, which runs the plain M1 from the Air, not the M1 Pro or Max of the 14” and 16” models.

Ahh so that's what it is. I was confused because my coworker has the MBP with an M1 and dual monitor works fine for him. But that ran contrary to all research on my MBP specifically. Seems I'm due for an upgrade at some point in that case...

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Post by LeanderK »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #747
darkteflon wrote: post #678

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To reiterate your point about RAM for anyone wondering: don’t get the 8gb version! I’ve run 3 Apple Silicon Macs in different configs since 2020. Real-world performance on a range of different workloads is substantially worse than the 16gb version. Don’t even think about having more than one user logged in!

I have used the 2020 M1 air with 8Gb since last summer without any issues as a documents/productivity suite and web application development tool. There are zero complaints here. I had a Core i9 with 16GB of ram MBP before it. This feels just as fast.

I have an really old macbook pro (mid 2014) with 8 gigs of ram. I am regularly running out of ram, I think it should be independent of processing power, right? Or is there some other way it feels snappier? Maybe the SSD got so fast it can better handle memory pressure...or you just don't need more than 8 gigs and it wasn't a limiting factor before

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Post by grecy »

thinker5555 wrote: post #700
cantSpellSober wrote: post #55

> MagSafe 3 charging The biggest differences between v2 and v3 of MagSafe are: • v3 is 1 mm longer (doesn't fit v2 models) • v3 supports PD 3.1 ...is that all? > Thunderbolt 4 Type-C ports ...these do NOT support PD 3.1, correct?

This may be a stupid question, but does anyone know if you could charge through one of the Thunderbolt ports instead of having to use the magsafe connector? My work uses Macs for all employees, and they've been generous enough to supply me with 2 docking stations (one for office, one for home) that both charge through a Thunderbolt port. I'm due for a MBP upgrade and they were specifically waiting on the M2 Pro/Max v…

Yes, you can charge from any of the USB-C ports.

Some discussion here is saying the MagSafe will charge at 140W, while the USB-C ports will only charge at 100W, so it will be a bit slower.

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Post by bboygravity »

spockz wrote: post #719
djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

I am as happy with my 13” M1 mbp 2020 as you with your. My only gripe is that the screen is too small and more importantly after two years I went from a stellar 21h battery life to 13h for lightweight work and it now also seems to drain on sleep. And it seems to lose charge quicker under load. The battery capacity is still reported as 91%of spec which does not explain this behaviour. I hope yours holds up better.

I lolled while reading this.

I get like 45 minutes battery time out of my 1,5 year old Dell XPS 17. Not even enough for a meeting.

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