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MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by m_eiman »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #84
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

> It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. For people who don't mind an ultra-brittle screen or who don't mind paying an extra 20% Apple tax to get their screen replaced when it breaks. Had a M1 Mac. Screen broke overnight. Meanwhile my LG Gram feels way more sturdy and hasn't let me down in years. M1 Mac lasted about 13 months. Not happy at all with Apple asking 680 EUR to r…

Since you say EUR, I suppose you're in Europe. Which means that your broken screen should be covered by the EU rules mandating at least two years guarantee:

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/gua...

" You always have the right to a minimum 2-year guarantee at no cost, regardless of whether you bought your goods online, in a shop or by mail order.

This 2-year guarantee is your minimum right, however national rules in your country may give you extra protection.

If goods you bought anywhere in the EU turn out to be faulty or do not look or work as advertised, the seller must repair or replace them free of charge or give you a price reduction or a full refund. "

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by firstSpeaker »

gnufied wrote: post #46
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

Could you elaborate what is preventing it from being the perfect backend dev laptop?

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by [deleted] »

a_humean wrote: post #45
wrldos wrote: post #2

Pricing has gone crazy here in the UK. Paid £1899 for my M1 Pro. Same spec M2 Pro is £2199. Edit: at this rate when my previous gen one expires I'm going to think seriously about shifting back to ThinkPads...

I'm afriad you are going to need to get used to it. The £ is depreciating against the dollar, and wages in the UK have been stagant for 10+ years and are set to remain stagant for another 10 based upon current forecasting. Based upon current trends countries like Poland and Slovakia are going to overtake the UK on many economic metrics within a generation, which is both a credit to the growth of those countries and t…

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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by yoavm »

isolli wrote: post #121
gnufied wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

What really pushed me towards Apple is that Lenovo offers a very limited set of configurations to us Europeans. No way to get the best machine from them, even if we're willing to pay for it.

I have an X1 Yoga that I got here in the Netherlands, and I had plenty of choices when configuring it, including OS. What are you missing exactly?

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by dml2135 »

mpeg wrote: post #16

New Mac mini with the M2 Pro maxes out at 32GB memory, that's quite disappointing compared to the Macbook Pro's 96GB. On the other hand, my M2 Macbook Air is one of the best purchases I've made in a long time, great fanless laptop.

I really hope the next Macbook Air supports multiple external monitors, that's the only thing holding me back from it right now. I know there are DisplayLink solutions but not sure how well they would work.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by ericmay »

shrubble wrote: post #127

The ThinkPad P15 gen 1, shipped in 2020 with 128gb RAM available... for example: https://www.techradar.com/news/this-is-the-best-value-128gb-... So I don't see why Apple would make the claim that their 96gb setup can load models that PC laptops can't...

I haven't looked into this (and couldn't care less) but it probably has something to do with newer technology in the RAM. Not all RAM is created equal.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by achairapart »

Pro, Max, Ultra, any combination of these. I can't understand any of these. Not that it means anything more than an artificial fragmentation to bring in more upsell opportunities. Looks like 90s Apple again, at least from this point of view.

I understand the old (simple and brilliant) four-quadrant is not going to fit anymore, but this is just the opposite extreme.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by JoshTko »

nvrspyx wrote: post #113
JoshTko wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Apple's main target customers are Intel macbook owners using these stats would make sense.

They could include both the improvement from the last Intel model and the previous Apple Silicon model, no? EDIT: I see they actually do just that for some specific applications.

Less is more. I'm guessing the % of M2 customers that are upgrading from an M1 is less than 10%. If ~75% (my guess) of target customers for M2 are Intel mac owners, Apple should focus on them first. They can then do more targeted ads w/ relevant stats to win each subgroup in the remaining 25%

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by nostrademons »

spenvo wrote: post #101
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

> far ahead Losing external GPU support with apple silicon has become a major deal. In the age of AI tools like stable diffusion, performance per watt matters less if you lose the capability to scale up these kind of workloads. Gurman's report about the mac pro tower gave us reason to hope on this (that the upcoming mac pro will have eGPU support), but when it comes to MacBooks, let alone the pros, no one knows when/…

You typically wouldn't use a Macbook for that though. If you want to do AI research, buy a gaming rig (< $1000) or rent a cloud GPU instance and then remote desktop or SSH in from the laptop. Then you get the portability and battery life of the laptop, and once you start training you can put it to sleep and the remote instance will just keep humming away.
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