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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by mpeg »

gonehome wrote: post #40
mpeg wrote: post #16

New Mac mini with the M2 Pro maxes out at 32GB memory, that's quite disappointing compared to the Macbook Pro's 96GB. On the other hand, my M2 Macbook Air is one of the best purchases I've made in a long time, great fanless laptop.

The M2 MBA is probably closest to my perfect laptop. Thin, no moving parts (no fan), very fast, 24GB RAM, super long battery life. I love it.

Same for me, I bought it thinking I'd use my desktop more anyway so I wanted something very light, fanless and with long lasting battery – and I've ended up using it as my daily driver since the summer.

It's absolutely flawless, and very good value for the price (even with the overpriced RAM)

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by smoldesu »

hk1337 wrote: post #35

How is development setup on the M2? Specifically Docker and Python. Docker VM has always seemed rather meh on my M1 and installing different python versions with pyenv either goes well or has _a lot_ of workarounds.

That's OS-specific, and doesn't really have much to do with the chip. Managing Python will be frustrating on every OS, but running Docker software will always be uniquely slow on MacOS. If you want native Docker performance, you need a kernel with native Linux support.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by JoshTko »

jchw wrote: post #34

It's worrying that they are shying away from specifying generational improvements or at least comparing to it's competitors. The "fastest Intel MacBook" is not really the competitor for an M2 MacBook Pro, it's a predecessor. But I'd rather hear about generational improvements from M1, especially because both Intel and AMD seem to be making great strides in the low power space lately.

If Apple's main target customers are Intel macbook owners using these stats would make sense.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by csdvrx »

That's when I realize how much my weird hardware preferences set me apart: I mostly care about an OLED screen and ECC ram. Then, a touchscreen supporting pen entry, and a good keyboard (with the edit keys like home/insert/pageup/pagedown directly accessible, bonus is there's also printscreen) especially if it's not a foldable or a tablet.

Apple's got good CPU and battery life, but unless the core features are present, I really don't care.

Here, 0/4 of my core features are present. It's certainly nice hardware, but it's not for me.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by hk1337 »

smoldesu wrote: post #52
hk1337 wrote: post #35

How is development setup on the M2? Specifically Docker and Python. Docker VM has always seemed rather meh on my M1 and installing different python versions with pyenv either goes well or has _a lot_ of workarounds.

That's OS-specific, and doesn't really have much to do with the chip. Managing Python will be frustrating on every OS, but running Docker software will always be uniquely slow on MacOS. If you want native Docker performance, you need a kernel with native Linux support.

Fair point.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by DannyBee »

bayindirh wrote: post #19
Mikeb85 wrote: post #10

Strange that Apple still isn't offering OLED screens when most other laptop makers are this year...

They tend to not sacrifice longevity over flashy technologies. They migrated to OLED very late in iPhone when compared to other manufacturers, too. The last thing I want is a burn mark on my laptop screen because of static parts of my IDEs and such.

"They tend to not sacrifice longevity over flashy technologies. "

What? In what universe is this true? They spent generations of macbooks on flashy keyboards that didn't work, etc.

Trying to pain Apple's inability to keep up in certain area as them trying to care about longevity is hilarious. In the end - it's not about longevity at all, it's almost certainly about whether they can get it at the price point they want, in the volume they want.

That's it.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by shishy »

wrldos wrote: post #2

Pricing has gone crazy here in the UK. Paid £1899 for my M1 Pro. Same spec M2 Pro is £2199. Edit: at this rate when my previous gen one expires I'm going to think seriously about shifting back to ThinkPads...

I do get sticker shock at the prices, but I have to say I still use my 2015 MBP for dev work and it's been serving me well. That's quite the longevity... I'd hope if I got an M2 (thinking about upgrading in a year or two), that it lasts a similar duration. ~8 years, I wouldn't mind shelling out that price, especially since it pays me back so quickly (some consulting work).

Have to check to see how reliable those thinkpads are but I also just enjoyed the physical experience of a Mac (know it's not for everyone and subjective)

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by mpeg »

nicoburns wrote: post #39
mpeg wrote: post #16

New Mac mini with the M2 Pro maxes out at 32GB memory, that's quite disappointing compared to the Macbook Pro's 96GB. On the other hand, my M2 Macbook Air is one of the best purchases I've made in a long time, great fanless laptop.

Presumably they are trying to make a clear distinction between the mini and studio.

Yeah, I understand from a product perspective, but the studio feels like a bit of a weird product to me, I'd much rather either buy a mini form factor for the size, or just get a proper desktop machine (since the Mac Pro has been outdated for a while)
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