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Post by rgovostes »

fortran77 wrote: post #215
rgovostes wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is almost certainly the correct answer. It might also be a generic dialog populated with a server-provided message. Apple TV definitely is not intended to require that you own another Apple device. Even the Apple TV+ subscription service is supported on other platforms like Roku ( https://www.roku.com/blog/apple-tv ). Apple has never required that you run the latest iOS to use iCloud (see minimum requirements on…

Except that he tried it and it didn’t work. There was no message to accept the TOS.

Except what? Tried what? What are you responding to?

Edit: If you are responding to the part about accepting T&C on a Mac, I meant in the iCloud system settings panel, and not through the browser. (Though I would also expect that to work. The fact that it doesn't just underscores that this is a dumb bug.)

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Post by crazygringo »

jelly wrote: post #108

I think the current title is mistaken, the twitter user isn't claiming he can't use the Apple TV, he's just saying the message appears. I encountered the same message when iOS 16 had just released and wasn't available on my iPad yet. It wasn't a blocking message, pressing "OK" was enough to make it go away, and when iPadOS 16 finally came out I was able to clear it. It's bad UX but the Apple TV can still be used as b…

Yes, I'm flagging the submission because of this -- I'm sure tons of people are upvoting based on the totally inaccurate title.

Which I feel weird about because I don't want to flag the story or the tweet or the comments... it's just the title specifically. So I kind of wish there were a way to flag a title. Hopefully it gets dang's attention and he'll handle it.

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Post by dijit »

thorncorona wrote: post #209
dijit wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might not, but I have gone entire days with only my LTE Apple watch. I can take calls, play music (wirelessly through my airpods), crudely reply to messages (it's only a little awkward, surprisingly usable) and pay for things without my phone. For web-browsing, I don't need to do that all the time. I use my camera a sum total of twice a month. I don't think I'm special.

There are people who'd be able to get by with a watch, but as an alternate perspective: - 99% of my messaging is through text, the other 1% is video calling - Most of my causal web browsing is on my phone - I've taken thousands of pictures on my phone in the last year. Most of my friends are like this as well.

I’m sure thats true, in fact, I’m certain of it.

most of the use of my phone is mobile web-browsing.

I can honestly live without that sometimes, especially as phones are getting large enough that you might as well have a tablet that you lug around sometimes.

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Post by GuB-42 »

robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

It seems like Apple is an "all or nothing" kind of thing. Either you have everything by Apple and it is great, or you have none of it.

A very common reason Apple fans give for why they buy Apple is that all their devices work so well together. And I tend to agree with them. This is their market, they don't want to make efforts to accommodate others.

And why would they? They already have the best market, loyal customers with a lot of money to spend. They don't want to bring in cheap people, offer them a subpar experience because they won't enjoy the benefits of a tightly integrated ecosystem, just to have them complain and never buy again.

Competitors will arrive, and Apple will gladly let them feed on the bottom, but Apple is still safe in its market. And I can't really see the Apple TV serve as a "gateway drug" to the Apple ecosystem like the iPhone can. As for the Apple Watch, like any smartwatch, it is simply too small to stand alone. It is hard to find phones less than 6 inch now, because people want bigger phones for a variety of reasons: bigger screen, better camera, bigger battery, etc... You definitely won't replace it with a 2 inch watch.

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Post by warning26 »

jkaplowitz wrote: post #162
V__ wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I gifted an Apple Watch this Christmas. I checked their site and saw that an iPhone was needed, but somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. Since you can set up the watch for a family member (who doesn't have an iPhone) it has to work, right? Got the newest iPad? F*k you, buy and iPhone. That was a disappointing gift, I can tell you that. There is absolutely no reason to impose such a limit. I don't und…

I don't like this mandatory tie between the two Apple product lines any more than you do, but as an FYI nit on terminology: > somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. [...] Got the newest iPad? iOS 12 was the last version of iOS where that name applied to iPad as well as iPhone. Starting with version 13, the version of the operating system for iPhone had been the only one called iOS, with the iPad OS cal…

This almost reads like a parody of Apple fanboy logic. Allow me to summarize your comment:

"Well, ACKCHTUALLY, on the iPad, it's called iPadOS. Checkmate, all your points are therefore invalid, Apple can do no wrong"

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Post by LarryMullins »

coldtea wrote: post #168
LarryMullins wrote: post #148

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Cameras are doubtlessly vital to some users, but almost entirely superfluous to others. I can count the number of times per year I use the camera on my phone with just my fingers.

If those "others" are a small minority, then the parent's point still stands.

I don't think we're that small of a minority. Quite a few people don't actively use any social media, and taking memento photos is an unusual activity for many people, done mostly when going on rare vacations if at all. That leaves purely utilitarian photo taking, like uploading checks or taking a picture to help you remember where you parked your car.

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Post by darknavi »

sircastor wrote: post #166
robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

I would be more concerned about this if the competition in this space was not so disappointing this far. I think there are good smartwatches in the Android space, but none of them are great, and none of them have challenged the Apple Watch in terms of feature set and quality. And Apple hasn’t sat on its laurels here. They keep making the watch a more desirable device. To me, it seems like they know they can get peopl…

> think there are good smartwatches in the Android space, but none of them are great

How much of that is limited by the API that Google is surfacing? Watches simply cannot compete with an Apple Watch because Apple doesn't surface the same functionality for any other device.

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Post by srott2 »

slenk wrote: post #61
srott2 wrote: post #39

Similar to the Chromecast, I was trying to set one up. https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/2998456 "Download the Google Home app on your Chromecast-supported Android device."

There is literally a button in the link you provided saying how to do it on iOS also...

OMFSM my bad o_O. I'll never get used to Material design, hope it follows Metro soon...
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