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Details: I own a Mac & no other Apple devices. My TV is an LG. I have the Apple streaming service on the TV, purely because they have some pretty good shows (Ted Lasso, Separation, Acapulco). Is there something an Apple TV device would do for me? I'm not seeing it.

I got one because I didn’t trust my TV enough to connect it to the internet, and I wanted to watch things from my Plex server on my tv.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Details: I own a Mac & no other Apple devices. My TV is an LG. I have the Apple streaming service on the TV, purely because they have some pretty good shows (Ted Lasso, Separation, Acapulco). Is there something an Apple TV device would do for me? I'm not seeing it.

A lot of people prefer standalone streaming boxes over integrated "smarts" because they tend to run more smoothly due to having vastly more powerful hardware and tend to receive software updates for a much longer period (see Samsung smart TVs where features stop working in 1-2 years). A dedicated streaming box also sometimes makes it easier to cut out the egregious data harvesting that smart TV makers employ to subsidize their TVs (though Roku and Amazon Fire devices are still data vacuums).

My personal setup is a 2018 Sony TV with an Apple TV 4K. The smarts on the TV aren't the worst, but the Apple TV handily beats it in fluidity, so the TV has never been connected to the internet and never will be.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Can you use AirPods without an Apple device to begin with?

Yes they are standard Bluetooth devices and can pair normally. On Apple devices they get more features. I’ve used AirPods with my Sony PS Vita (made before AirPods) and my Nintendo switch (once they added Bluetooth headset support recently)

How well do they work / support bluetooth standards compared to other brands bluetooth headphones? I'd like to get these for a family member who wants new wireless earbuds, but not if it's as sub-par experience vs buying another brand for Android users

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I think macbook with eSIM could land once the OS has good controls over the network usage. Carriers aren’t gonna let those things run wild

Just bill me by bandwidth used. It is ridiculous that one cannot buy a MacBook Pro with a cell modem. I fight with tethering at least once a week.

i had a windows laptop with inbuilt 4G modem, was great fpr business travel. Had better reception than a phone.

Many business people use mac and would love this. Really weired

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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How does this not violate the Sherman Antitrust act under illegal tying of services and goods? > (From Wikipedia) Success on a tying claim typically requires proof of four elements: (1) two separate products or services are involved; (AppleTV and other Apple phone/iPad, as demanded by the tied product in question) (2) the purchase of the tying product is conditioned on the additional purchase of the tied product; (Ye…

The market power is too weak Apple TV market share is below 3%? https://www.statista.com/statistics/1171132/global-connected...

Not sure if "market power" is strictly synonymous with "market share" though. It is probably possible to argue they have much more power than the 3% would suggest.

You could even argue that "power" in this context is actually framed around an idea of latent market share - the amount of market share that can be achieved outside of normal competitive means.

But yes, in general this would underscore the criticism of US competition policy that it's designed to close the gate after the horse already bolted.

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You used to be able to set them up from the Chrome browser, back when Chromecast support was implemented via a browser extension and not baked in. They completely gutted Chromecast support in Chrome quite a while ago, you can't even adjust the playback volume from your computer any more.

I wonder if they had to gut it due to the Sonos suit.

the volume adjustment feature disappearing was definitely in response to the sonos lawsuit

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But there’s no technical reason a stand-alone watch couldn’t be an option for those who actually want it.

Sure, but > The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone I simply don't think is true.

You might not, but I have gone entire days with only my LTE Apple watch.

I can take calls, play music (wirelessly through my airpods), crudely reply to messages (it's only a little awkward, surprisingly usable) and pay for things without my phone.

For web-browsing, I don't need to do that all the time.

I use my camera a sum total of twice a month.

I don't think I'm special.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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This kind of policy is why I refuse to buy apple. My 14yr old daughter has an iPhone and I cannot administer it as a parent without owning an iPhone or similar device myself. A basic Web UI is all that's needed to access the screen time settings, but nope. It's clearly by design, you're either all in with them, or they dont want you.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Bonus points for Apple Support chiming in - to address an unrelated issue that another commenter casually mentioned. About the original problem? Not a single word. At least they are sending a clear message... https://twitter.com/AppleSupport/status/1615094275334619136

Well, he did get an Appler asking for a Feedback ID which is more than nothing. https://twitter.com/DanCUnderwood/status/1614943132340068353

Ah, apologies. I didn't realise that person was an Apple employee. That definitely makes a difference.
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