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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by Retric »

yamtaddle wrote: post #80
robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

Nothing's replacing the Smartphone unless it's got a camera in the same ballpark of quality and usability. Several use cases for a smartphone—including a couple major ones—don't really work with a watch, mostly for camera-related reasons. If it's not good as a camera, it's also not good as a scanner replacement, not good for remote check deposit, not good for things like the Measure app (or any other AR stuff), and s…

I don’t think either can do it alone, but Watch + [ AR glasses or tablet + earbuds ] could more directly replace a smartphone.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by NLPaep »

tarotuser wrote: post #73

How does this not violate the Sherman Antitrust act under illegal tying of services and goods? > (From Wikipedia) Success on a tying claim typically requires proof of four elements: (1) two separate products or services are involved; (AppleTV and other Apple phone/iPad, as demanded by the tied product in question) (2) the purchase of the tying product is conditioned on the additional purchase of the tied product; (Ye…

The market power is too weak

Apple TV market share is below 3%?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1171132/global-connected...

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by partiallypro »

makeitdouble wrote: post #31

It's interesting how the responses basically split into two camps: - the "just buy an iPhone" and "you've brought it on you, what did you expect" camp - the "Apple fix this" camp At the point I'm reading this, the first camp represents the vast majority of the responses. That's interesting regarding Apple's ongoing lawsuits and regulaory pressure. For most people Apple domination and dictating the rules is basically…

> At the point I'm reading this, the first camp represents the vast majority of the responses.

That's because despite it having gone from a niche company in the early 2000s to one of the biggest and most powerful in the entire world, it's still a cult in many aspects. Apple is blatantly anti-consumer on so many fronts but gets away with it all the time, and often times their own customers are the biggest bolsters to their behavior. People defend the 30% Apple tax, or the inability to install other OSes, or the screwing of Android users on SMS, etc...all the time. Things other companies simply don't get away with.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

#95

Post by jagged-chisel »

yamtaddle wrote: post #80
robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

Nothing's replacing the Smartphone unless it's got a camera in the same ballpark of quality and usability. Several use cases for a smartphone—including a couple major ones—don't really work with a watch, mostly for camera-related reasons. If it's not good as a camera, it's also not good as a scanner replacement, not good for remote check deposit, not good for things like the Measure app (or any other AR stuff), and s…

But there’s no technical reason a stand-alone watch couldn’t be an option for those who actually want it.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by [deleted] »

enos_feedler wrote: post #90
zikduruqe wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I seldom, if ever, carry my iPhone outside my house. My Apple Watch with cellular is enough for internet connectivity when away from home. In my perfect world, I could provision my Apple Watch as a standalone device, and I could get a MacBook with an eSIM.

I think macbook with eSIM could land once the OS has good controls over the network usage. Carriers aren’t gonna let those things run wild

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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by bobbyi »

mik1998 wrote: post #58
mklepaczewski wrote: post #35

Last time I checked a parent needed their own Apple device to set up app limits, downtime, accept/reject app installation requests on child's device. Thanks Apple. Now I have an option to give my kid unrestricted access to their device and to the whole Internet, or buy another IPhone just because my child uses Apple product.

Why would you buy your child an iphone if you don't have one?

I would buy a child a toy car, not a Toyota, even if I drove a Camry

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

#98

Post by zikduruqe »

enos_feedler wrote: post #90
zikduruqe wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I seldom, if ever, carry my iPhone outside my house. My Apple Watch with cellular is enough for internet connectivity when away from home. In my perfect world, I could provision my Apple Watch as a standalone device, and I could get a MacBook with an eSIM.

I think macbook with eSIM could land once the OS has good controls over the network usage. Carriers aren’t gonna let those things run wild

Yep. I am very, intimately familiar with the inner workings of carriers. But one can dream.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by yamtaddle »

Retric wrote: post #91
yamtaddle wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing's replacing the Smartphone unless it's got a camera in the same ballpark of quality and usability. Several use cases for a smartphone—including a couple major ones—don't really work with a watch, mostly for camera-related reasons. If it's not good as a camera, it's also not good as a scanner replacement, not good for remote check deposit, not good for things like the Measure app (or any other AR stuff), and s…

I don’t think either can do it alone, but Watch + [ AR glasses or tablet + earbuds ] could more directly replace a smartphone.

Yeah, AR glasses are what will actually be the Next Smartphone, as far as rapidly attaining ubiquity. If they can fix the bulkiness and battery life issues, anyway. And sure, decent chance that'll involve tethering the glasses to some kind of watch where the actual brains and long-range radios live. Or to a smartphone or tablet that you can leave in a pocket or bag all the time (why wear a watch when the AR glasses could just paint a fake one on your wrist?)

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by [deleted] »

tarotuser wrote: post #73

How does this not violate the Sherman Antitrust act under illegal tying of services and goods? > (From Wikipedia) Success on a tying claim typically requires proof of four elements: (1) two separate products or services are involved; (AppleTV and other Apple phone/iPad, as demanded by the tied product in question) (2) the purchase of the tying product is conditioned on the additional purchase of the tied product; (Ye…

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