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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by galoisscobi »

counttheforks wrote: post #69
galoisscobi wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m fully in the apple ecosystem but agree that a person shouldn’t be forced to buy another device to use the device at hand. The ecosystem should be a nice to have and not a necessity (although Apple Watch might be an exception, given how much it relies on the iPhone for its functionality). The fact that they were able to use their Apple TV before this TOS prompt seems like this blocking TOS prompt was a miss on App…

What about not being able to develop for an iphone without having to buy a macbook?

Sure! It'll only help make app development more accessible. I also think I should be able to write code for my own iOS device, sign it myself and run it on my own device without paying them $99/year since I "purchased" the iOS device.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by zikduruqe »

robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

This.

I seldom, if ever, carry my iPhone outside my house. My Apple Watch with cellular is enough for internet connectivity when away from home.

In my perfect world, I could provision my Apple Watch as a standalone device, and I could get a MacBook with an eSIM.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by yamtaddle »

alpaca128 wrote: post #38
makeitdouble wrote: post #31

It's interesting how the responses basically split into two camps: - the "just buy an iPhone" and "you've brought it on you, what did you expect" camp - the "Apple fix this" camp At the point I'm reading this, the first camp represents the vast majority of the responses. That's interesting regarding Apple's ongoing lawsuits and regulaory pressure. For most people Apple domination and dictating the rules is basically…

I liked the variant "buy an iPad, accept the terms with it and then return the iPad".

That and "accept from a device at an Apple store" were my two favorites.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by ace2358 »

slenk wrote: post #56
riffraff wrote: post #4

Apple won't let you use "find my device" on airpods unless you have an iPhone either, iirc. Its shitty behavior, but sadly unsurprising.

Can you use AirPods without an Apple device to begin with?

Yes they are standard Bluetooth devices and can pair normally. On Apple devices they get more features.

I’ve used AirPods with my Sony PS Vita (made before AirPods) and my Nintendo switch (once they added Bluetooth headset support recently)

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by goosedragons »

chadlavi wrote: post #53
makeitdouble wrote: post #31

It's interesting how the responses basically split into two camps: - the "just buy an iPhone" and "you've brought it on you, what did you expect" camp - the "Apple fix this" camp At the point I'm reading this, the first camp represents the vast majority of the responses. That's interesting regarding Apple's ongoing lawsuits and regulaory pressure. For most people Apple domination and dictating the rules is basically…

I don't think it's this person's fault or that they should have seen it coming but I am curious why someone with no other apple devices would buy what I consider to be a secondary apple accessory. I just assumed (and I guess apple did too?) that no one who doesn't already have an apple device would buy an Apple TV. If I didn't have apple computers and an iPhone I don't think I would see the benefit over a google tv d…

I wouldn't really call the Apple TV a secondary Apple accessory. The only thing another Apple device brings to the table is Airplay (and I guess slightly better keyboard input) hardly necessary when all the streaming services and games can be used with the remote or a controller. You can still buy iTunes videos on a Windows PC to watch on the Apple TV too. It's basically a fancy Roku or FireTV neither of which require another device.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by HollowEyes »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #60
chadlavi wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's this person's fault or that they should have seen it coming but I am curious why someone with no other apple devices would buy what I consider to be a secondary apple accessory. I just assumed (and I guess apple did too?) that no one who doesn't already have an apple device would buy an Apple TV. If I didn't have apple computers and an iPhone I don't think I would see the benefit over a google tv d…

Google TV is filled to the brim with ads.

Glad we went the Roku route. It performs better than my Chromecast ultra too.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by Ishmaeli »

mik1998 wrote: post #58
mklepaczewski wrote: post #35

Last time I checked a parent needed their own Apple device to set up app limits, downtime, accept/reject app installation requests on child's device. Thanks Apple. Now I have an option to give my kid unrestricted access to their device and to the whole Internet, or buy another IPhone just because my child uses Apple product.

Why would you buy your child an iphone if you don't have one?

I can't tell if this is sincere or a send-up, because it's literally Apple's apologetic for everything. Always blame the customer.

"If your phone has bad reception, it's because you're holding it wrong. Why would you hold it like that?"

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by zamadatix »

ikiris wrote: post #52
srott2 wrote: post #39

Similar to the Chromecast, I was trying to set one up. https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/2998456 "Download the Google Home app on your Chromecast-supported Android device."

The chromecast didn't have an actual UI to manage.

You used to be able to set it up via any device though not just Android/iPhone which made sense as more than just phones can use it. At least it's not just Pixels or something.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by enos_feedler »

zikduruqe wrote: post #82
robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

This. I seldom, if ever, carry my iPhone outside my house. My Apple Watch with cellular is enough for internet connectivity when away from home. In my perfect world, I could provision my Apple Watch as a standalone device, and I could get a MacBook with an eSIM.

I think macbook with eSIM could land once the OS has good controls over the network usage. Carriers aren’t gonna let those things run wild
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