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Post by K7PJP »

goosedragons wrote: post #86
chadlavi wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's this person's fault or that they should have seen it coming but I am curious why someone with no other apple devices would buy what I consider to be a secondary apple accessory. I just assumed (and I guess apple did too?) that no one who doesn't already have an apple device would buy an Apple TV. If I didn't have apple computers and an iPhone I don't think I would see the benefit over a google tv d…

I wouldn't really call the Apple TV a secondary Apple accessory. The only thing another Apple device brings to the table is Airplay (and I guess slightly better keyboard input) hardly necessary when all the streaming services and games can be used with the remote or a controller. You can still buy iTunes videos on a Windows PC to watch on the Apple TV too. It's basically a fancy Roku or FireTV neither of which requir…

As of a year ago or so, Roku now supports AirPlay, which allowed me to finally decommission my 3rd Gen Apple TV. I had no interest in the overpriced 4th Gen.

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Post by londons_explore »

makeitdouble wrote: post #31

It's interesting how the responses basically split into two camps: - the "just buy an iPhone" and "you've brought it on you, what did you expect" camp - the "Apple fix this" camp At the point I'm reading this, the first camp represents the vast majority of the responses. That's interesting regarding Apple's ongoing lawsuits and regulaory pressure. For most people Apple domination and dictating the rules is basically…

> Apple's forced to open its ecosystem

I can almost guarantee this won't happen. Apple will do everything possible to stick to the wording of any laws and regulations, while making the actual process as complex as possible. "I'm afraid to pair with an android phone, you need to take your Apple TV into an Apple Store, where they can generate a pairing code, which will then be valid until the next update before requiring re-pairing, which must again be done at an Apple Store"

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Post by kobayashi »

acodesmith wrote: post #112

Log in to your Apple account in a browser and accepts the terms. Log out of the tv and log back in. Same thing happened to me. The original poster is mistaken.

The OP said that would not work. https://twitter.com/hugelgupf/status/1614843798928109569

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Post by fnordpiglet »

LarryMullins wrote: post #148
yamtaddle wrote: post #80

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Nothing's replacing the Smartphone unless it's got a camera in the same ballpark of quality and usability. Several use cases for a smartphone—including a couple major ones—don't really work with a watch, mostly for camera-related reasons. If it's not good as a camera, it's also not good as a scanner replacement, not good for remote check deposit, not good for things like the Measure app (or any other AR stuff), and s…

Cameras are doubtlessly vital to some users, but almost entirely superfluous to others. I can count the number of times per year I use the camera on my phone with just my fingers.

I think for in the range of 98% of smartphone users the phone is the least useful feature. In truth they’re often really crap phones and my old flip phone had better all around phone quality and utility. But at this point I feel annoyed when I have to speak to a person. If I were meant to speak to people I wouldn’t have been born an engineer.

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Post by symlinkk »

jkaplowitz wrote: post #162
V__ wrote: post #111

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I gifted an Apple Watch this Christmas. I checked their site and saw that an iPhone was needed, but somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. Since you can set up the watch for a family member (who doesn't have an iPhone) it has to work, right? Got the newest iPad? F*k you, buy and iPhone. That was a disappointing gift, I can tell you that. There is absolutely no reason to impose such a limit. I don't und…

I don't like this mandatory tie between the two Apple product lines any more than you do, but as an FYI nit on terminology: > somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. [...] Got the newest iPad? iOS 12 was the last version of iOS where that name applied to iPad as well as iPhone. Starting with version 13, the version of the operating system for iPhone had been the only one called iOS, with the iPad OS cal…

Lmao how is this nuance related to the point he made at all?

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by yial »

LarryMullins wrote: post #148
yamtaddle wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing's replacing the Smartphone unless it's got a camera in the same ballpark of quality and usability. Several use cases for a smartphone—including a couple major ones—don't really work with a watch, mostly for camera-related reasons. If it's not good as a camera, it's also not good as a scanner replacement, not good for remote check deposit, not good for things like the Measure app (or any other AR stuff), and s…

Cameras are doubtlessly vital to some users, but almost entirely superfluous to others. I can count the number of times per year I use the camera on my phone with just my fingers.

I agree with you. I guess the question is the overlap / and or market.

I don’t know about anything at the scale of Apple.

But my simplified imagination of any product is: focus on core customer/demo, once you’ve captured a significant portion, expand.

But I also wonder if at apples level, if the customer is “everyone” which I always think of as folly for most business.

Example (which may partially disprove this): I know some people in developing countries, who consider an iPad an essential device. (They have a cheap android phone) and for them, it’s much more valuable than a computer.

(Though, the people I am thinking of are “high” earners in their country, making 20-40k a year. Even if an iPad is almost double the cost.)

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Post by fbdab103 »

Related - is there a way I can download pictures from an Iphone to a Linux computer locally? Not interested in using any form of cloud intermediary. Evidently, if I plug a cable from an Iphone into a computer, enter my password, this still represents a threat if it is not overseen by iTunes. The device is in my hand, connected to the intended destination, and it is non-trivial to retrieve my data.

Just absurd behavior from Apple.

Edit: I should add -the IPhone does mount. For instance, it lets me view my Firefox Downloads folder or VLC folder to which you could move media in and out of the device. However, access to my personal photos is a step too far.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by jeroenhd »

shagie wrote: post #130
riffraff wrote: post #4

Apple won't let you use "find my device" on airpods unless you have an iPhone either, iirc. Its shitty behavior, but sadly unsurprising.

The "Find my" is tied to the Apple ID account. That's part of how the end to end security works ( https://support.apple.com/guide/security/find-my-security-se... /// https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/06/the-c... /// https://web.archive.org/web/20190609003010/https://www.wired... ) and yet allows the owner of the account to unlock the "where is it" pieces of information. It is through the iPhone that…

It's unfortunate that Apple can't figure out how to enable the algorithm they designed themselves on Android devices so the second device doesn't need to be an iPhone. I'm sure those smart engineers will figure out their own protocol choices some day if we just give them enough time.
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